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Yeah, you’re a true punk, richardson. Tell us you aren’t a koehler trainer… Then tell us you don’t condone hanging dogs to rehabilitate them… Time to get real and LOOK at yourself and SEE the mental midget you are. Jerry. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jerry writes: > :Oh, gee, that’s real relevant, isn’t it? > :Why don’t you just pull up the post > :and go over it and CORRECT ME??? > I’ll leave that as a trivial exercise to > anyone who bothers to wade > through your post. > JohnR > Pit Bull Libertarian > Never sneer at the power of a little > pink squeaky toy!

Response:

Why? Because he calls you the imbecile you are?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Another mental case. j;~) > I don’t *care* what richardson wrote, what you wrote teaches young > people to > be mean. Period. > I hope you are proud of yourself. Good job. > > > Is this what you want to teach young people? What is wrong > with > > you?? What > > > kind of "adult" are you??? You are a shame… > > O.K., genius, > > Since your COWARDLY buddy richardson has twice refused to give > any > > defense of his own words, why don’t YOU go over my post and see > if > > I’m being UNFAIR? Take a good look. Challenge anything you want > more > > proof of… > > Hello richardson, > > > You are actually reposting this? > > Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? Take it up with my > ISP. > > > These quotes are your "smoking guns"? > > Not at all. That’s just a little warm up. You want some HEAT??? > > > You splice in rants about stuff > > > that mostly doesn’t even appear > > > in my quotes (because they don’t > > > appear in my training) and that > > > is supposed to be evidence of > > > something? > > Oh, I must have you confused with the other john richardson who > jerks > > and chokes dogs to make them friendly and trustworthy, to save > them > > from the needle… Probably wasn’t you at all. Excuse me… > > > It was silly of you to post this once. > > Oh gee, oh golly. Silly me, silly me. > > > Posting it twice is quite thoroughly ludicrous, I would have to > > say. > > Must have been an oversight. I just thought this post revealed a > > little about the character and mind set of the richardson who > abuses > > dogs… It couldn’t be you, you’re the nice richardson who HELPS > dogs > > in NEED. > > > But, hey, whatever makes our little Jarjar happy!!!!! > > I’ll be happy when you stop hurting bad dogs that scare you, with > the > > EXCUSE that you are SAVING FROM THE NEEDLE, and learn to train > them > > instead… > > > JohnR > > Here it is again, get the grease, this might burn a little…: > > "he can expect something firmer from me and my colleage Mark, who > > has actually made some real progress with Kahn using corrections > > that NO ONE enjoys using" John Richardson. > > Hello richardson, > > You are a punk. Here’s one of your old posts. You confront, > punish, > > choke, and probably hang dogs as any koehler trainer MUST be > > willing to do. And you kill dogs that won’t knuckle under. > > "Unfortunately, many people aren’t, > > and shelters like the one I volunteer > > at end up clogged with dogs whose > > owners failed to train or even mistrained > > them. It’s a long way back for some of > > them, and time, though generous by > > shelter standards, is not unlimited." > > So you’re going to HELP by jerking and choking the sit out of the > > dog… > > "I doubt that anyone around here would > > say "yeah, a nice little reward would > > work just as well, but I prefer negative > > methods"." > > Psst! Psssst!! Pssssssst!!! But that IS what you ARE saying, > MORON. > > "I LOVE it when I can get a > > dog like Pablo or Ariel (two of my all > > time favorite shelter Pit Bulls) to do > > sits, comes, stays and a few goofy > > tricks simply by playing fetch games > > with them." > > Good for you. Go PLAY somewhere and STAY AWAY from ”rescue”. > > And THEN you will not KILL dogs because you are WORKING to > > SAVE THEM FROM THE NEEDLE by choking, jerking, and HANGING them. > > " But when a dog like Kahn > > (a current inmate in serious trouble) > > starts grabbing at hands and sleeves > > and taking flying leaps over six foot > > fences to get at other dogs, he can > > expect something firmer from me > > and my colleage Mark, who has > > actually made some real progress > > with Kahn using corrections that > > NO ONE enjoys using." > > That’s NICE john. You PROVOKE dogs, instead of train them. You > > have NO RIGHT dealing with any SHELTER or RESCUE program, > > you are an ignorant, vicious, brutal, THUG. > > HERE’S PROOF: > > > Oh yeah, re Cindy and Dogman. > > They’re good people. Promise. > > I recognize that Dogman, like > > my buddy Olddog, can be an > > "acquired taste". But I do > > recommend acquiring that > > taste." > > Yes, two anonymous dog fighters or puppy mill operators who ENJOY > > HANGING DOGS to REHABILITATE them… to save them > > from the needle, of course… heh, heh, heh. > > "Cindy is, shall we say, > > a less exotic flavor. But she is > > firm and confident and that > > can always be off-putting, I > > suppose, even though it really > > shouldn’t. She’s one of the > > absolute tiptop rescue people > > in a newsgroup full of rescue- > > oriented folk." > > Yes, she is WELL RESPECTED among people who ENJOY twisting > > and pinching dog’s ears, toes, and testicles… to TRAIN them for > ALL > > ADVANCED WORK. She is a brutal sadist who has been VICIOUSLY > > EXPOSED by me… > > "And it’s more fun to get along with her than not to get along > with > > her." > > No problem, she’s been discredited and humiliated and she’s about > > ready to climb under a flat damp rock and never come back again, > > along with the rest of our Gang Of Thugs. > > "That I can guarantee 100%." > > Wrong, john. You and you vicious punk pals who HURT dogs and call > > that training will be EXPOSED, DISCREDITED, and FORGOTTEN… > > THAT I GUARANTEE 100%. > > "All for now!" > > You haven’t seen NUTHIN yet. You’ll be recognized for what you > are, > > and NO ONE will have any more to do with you, ESPECIALLY at the > > ‘’shelter” you so generously "HELP DESTROY DOGS FOR." > > JohnR > > Pit Bull Libertarian > > You are the problem. You meet aggressive dogs with violence, and > then > > KILL THEM, because you have no INTELLIGENT METHODS of > > handling and training them. You have no right "helping” any > > shelters. > > "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and > > judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne > > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin > > "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. > > DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) > > "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. > > "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems > > of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the > > simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to > > admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in > > explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which > > they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their > > lives." > > Leo Tolstoy > > Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more > > complaints to my personal email than any other controversial > > post I have made to date, bar none?: > > caveat > > If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would > > rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you > > have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke > > him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, > scold, > > hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are > > appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, > > or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your > > dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. > > Sincerely, > > Jerry Howe, > > Wits’ End Dog Training > > http://www.doggydoright.com > > Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. > > -Francis Bacon- > > There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, > > bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who > > ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at > all. > > -Nietzsche- > > The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are > learned > > qualities. > > The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning > > centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, > > develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. > > The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split > > seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless > > hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. > > -Jerry Howe-

Response:

Only an ignoramus or a vicious cretin would be a koehler trainer. Jerry. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jerry Howe writes: > :Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? > :Take it up with my ISP. > No complaints. Just baffled a bit over > why you would want to demonstrate > so clearly to the newsgroup what an > illiterate moron you are. I mean, even > I have always assumed that you had > at least a dozen functioning brain cells. > Apparently not. > JohnR > Pit Bull Libertarian > Never sneer at the power of a little > pink squeaky toy!

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Hello BigDumbPussy, Millions of sperm and YOU were the fastest? Michael Live… http://dogtv.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > You and the other Moron from DogshitTV are the only mental cases > here Jerry > Jerry Howe (Mr Helper) (Mr. Nice Guy) (Honest Abe) Is mentally > unstable and ABUSES dogs.he is worse than a SHOCK COLLAR…the > proof > "If the dog is trained properly, he does not think of his > protection > training as fun and games at the big dog park. During a > protection class, the dogs temperature should go up to 106 and > he should have loose stools within two or three minutes of > beginning the lesson." > He tortures dogs till they have a temperature of 106 and have > the runs. > He is also a puppy mill breeder > "I grew up in a professional breeding kennel. I’ve owned stud > dogs who’ve sired hundreds of puppies. I’ve whelped thousands of > puppies" HOWE disgusting you are JERRY > He is a fake, he admits he can’t train dogs > Right, you just flip a switch and they’re all trained. What > happens when the power goes out Jer? Do the dogs revert to their > old behaviors and bad habits? > Yeah, but so what? By then, I’ve already gotten my money. Who > cares what happens after that? I don’t. Suckers are born every > minute, so I won’t be running out of "customers" > anytime soon. > Got milk? > Bye. > Your pal, Jerry Howe > Jerry Howe > 626 Raleigh St > Orlando, FL 32805 > 407-425-5092 > Jerry Howe and his Doggy Do Wrong are being investigated for > fraud. > http://www.sound.net/~twillis/Harlan/concerns.html > http://deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=516286408W > A List of Jerry’s References from the newsgroups > "Jerry Howe is a freak… I have my doubts as to whether he has > ever even SEEN a dog never mind trained one. " > "That’s not a training method. It’s an abuse method. Pray tell, > how does this asshole who has no business touching a dog, much > less training one, achieve and control the temperature spike? " > "Yeah, that’s rich. He’ll make a dog sick enough to die, ON > PURPOSE, but ridicules choke chains?" > "He’s rude, annoying, obnoxious, and every other word in the > book" > "Doesn’t he sell magic black boxes? " > "That would be the same person…his magic black box will cure > *any* > behavior problem, don’t you know? " > "It does? It must be used by whacking the dog over the > head….I’d like him to demonstrate on himself… " > "And yet do you notice that the second anyone talks about choke > collars and prong collars and hanging, pinching or twisting he > calls it animal abuse? And spiking a dogs temp like that isent? > He is a lunatic… best to be ignored. " > Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. > Up to 100 minutes free! > http://www.keen.com

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You and the other Moron from DogshitTV are the only mental cases here Jerry Jerry Howe (Mr Helper) (Mr. Nice Guy) (Honest Abe) Is mentally unstable and ABUSES dogs.he is worse than a SHOCK COLLAR…the proof

"If the dog is trained properly, he does not think of his protection training as fun and games at the big dog park. During a protection class, the dogs temperature should go up to 106 and he should have loose stools within two or three minutes of beginning the lesson." He tortures dogs till they have a temperature of 106 and have the runs. He is also a puppy mill breeder "I grew up in a professional breeding kennel. I’ve owned stud dogs who’ve sired hundreds of puppies. I’ve whelped thousands of puppies" HOWE disgusting you are JERRY He is a fake, he admits he can’t train dogs Right, you just flip a switch and they’re all trained. What happens when the power goes out Jer? Do the dogs revert to their old behaviors and bad habits? Yeah, but so what? By then, I’ve already gotten my money. Who cares what happens after that? I don’t. Suckers are born every minute, so I won’t be running out of "customers" anytime soon. Got milk? Bye. Your pal, Jerry Howe Jerry Howe 626 Raleigh St Orlando, FL 32805 407-425-5092 Jerry Howe and his Doggy Do Wrong are being investigated for fraud. http://www.sound.net/~twillis/Harlan/concerns.html http://deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=516286408W A List of Jerry’s References from the newsgroups "Jerry Howe is a freak… I have my doubts as to whether he has ever even SEEN a dog never mind trained one. " "That’s not a training method. It’s an abuse method. Pray tell, how does this asshole who has no business touching a dog, much less training one, achieve and control the temperature spike? " "Yeah, that’s rich. He’ll make a dog sick enough to die, ON PURPOSE, but ridicules choke chains?" "He’s rude, annoying, obnoxious, and every other word in the book" "Doesn’t he sell magic black boxes? " "That would be the same person…his magic black box will cure *any* behavior problem, don’t you know? " "It does? It must be used by whacking the dog over the head….I’d like him to demonstrate on himself… " "And yet do you notice that the second anyone talks about choke collars and prong collars and hanging, pinching or twisting he calls it animal abuse? And spiking a dogs temp like that isent? He is a lunatic… best to be ignored. " Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

Response:

I don’t *care* what richardson wrote, what you wrote teaches young people to be mean. Period. I hope you are proud of yourself. Good job.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Is this what you want to teach young people? What is wrong with > you?? What > kind of "adult" are you??? You are a shame… > O.K., genius, > Since your COWARDLY buddy richardson has twice refused to give any > defense of his own words, why don’t YOU go over my post and see if > I’m being UNFAIR? Take a good look. Challenge anything you want more > proof of… > Hello richardson, > You are actually reposting this? > Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? Take it up with my ISP. > These quotes are your "smoking guns"? > Not at all. That’s just a little warm up. You want some HEAT??? > You splice in rants about stuff > that mostly doesn’t even appear > in my quotes (because they don’t > appear in my training) and that > is supposed to be evidence of > something? > Oh, I must have you confused with the other john richardson who jerks > and chokes dogs to make them friendly and trustworthy, to save them > from the needle… Probably wasn’t you at all. Excuse me… > It was silly of you to post this once. > Oh gee, oh golly. Silly me, silly me. > Posting it twice is quite thoroughly ludicrous, I would have to > say. > Must have been an oversight. I just thought this post revealed a > little about the character and mind set of the richardson who abuses > dogs… It couldn’t be you, you’re the nice richardson who HELPS dogs > in NEED. > But, hey, whatever makes our little Jarjar happy!!!!! > I’ll be happy when you stop hurting bad dogs that scare you, with the > EXCUSE that you are SAVING FROM THE NEEDLE, and learn to train them > instead… > JohnR > Here it is again, get the grease, this might burn a little…: > "he can expect something firmer from me and my colleage Mark, who > has actually made some real progress with Kahn using corrections > that NO ONE enjoys using" John Richardson. > Hello richardson, > You are a punk. Here’s one of your old posts. You confront, punish, > choke, and probably hang dogs as any koehler trainer MUST be > willing to do. And you kill dogs that won’t knuckle under. > "Unfortunately, many people aren’t, > and shelters like the one I volunteer > at end up clogged with dogs whose > owners failed to train or even mistrained > them. It’s a long way back for some of > them, and time, though generous by > shelter standards, is not unlimited." > So you’re going to HELP by jerking and choking the sit out of the > dog… > "I doubt that anyone around here would > say "yeah, a nice little reward would > work just as well, but I prefer negative > methods"." > Psst! Psssst!! Pssssssst!!! But that IS what you ARE saying, MORON. > "I LOVE it when I can get a > dog like Pablo or Ariel (two of my all > time favorite shelter Pit Bulls) to do > sits, comes, stays and a few goofy > tricks simply by playing fetch games > with them." > Good for you. Go PLAY somewhere and STAY AWAY from ”rescue”. > And THEN you will not KILL dogs because you are WORKING to > SAVE THEM FROM THE NEEDLE by choking, jerking, and HANGING them. > " But when a dog like Kahn > (a current inmate in serious trouble) > starts grabbing at hands and sleeves > and taking flying leaps over six foot > fences to get at other dogs, he can > expect something firmer from me > and my colleage Mark, who has > actually made some real progress > with Kahn using corrections that > NO ONE enjoys using." > That’s NICE john. You PROVOKE dogs, instead of train them. You > have NO RIGHT dealing with any SHELTER or RESCUE program, > you are an ignorant, vicious, brutal, THUG. > HERE’S PROOF: > Oh yeah, re Cindy and Dogman. > They’re good people. Promise. > I recognize that Dogman, like > my buddy Olddog, can be an > "acquired taste". But I do > recommend acquiring that > taste." > Yes, two anonymous dog fighters or puppy mill operators who ENJOY > HANGING DOGS to REHABILITATE them… to save them > from the needle, of course… heh, heh, heh. > "Cindy is, shall we say, > a less exotic flavor. But she is > firm and confident and that > can always be off-putting, I > suppose, even though it really > shouldn’t. She’s one of the > absolute tiptop rescue people > in a newsgroup full of rescue- > oriented folk." > Yes, she is WELL RESPECTED among people who ENJOY twisting > and pinching dog’s ears, toes, and testicles… to TRAIN them for ALL > ADVANCED WORK. She is a brutal sadist who has been VICIOUSLY > EXPOSED by me… > "And it’s more fun to get along with her than not to get along with > her." > No problem, she’s been discredited and humiliated and she’s about > ready to climb under a flat damp rock and never come back again, > along with the rest of our Gang Of Thugs. > "That I can guarantee 100%." > Wrong, john. You and you vicious punk pals who HURT dogs and call > that training will be EXPOSED, DISCREDITED, and FORGOTTEN… > THAT I GUARANTEE 100%. > "All for now!" > You haven’t seen NUTHIN yet. You’ll be recognized for what you are, > and NO ONE will have any more to do with you, ESPECIALLY at the > ‘’shelter” you so generously "HELP DESTROY DOGS FOR." > JohnR > Pit Bull Libertarian > You are the problem. You meet aggressive dogs with violence, and then > KILL THEM, because you have no INTELLIGENT METHODS of > handling and training them. You have no right "helping” any > shelters. > "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and > judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin > "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. > DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) > "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. > "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems > of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the > simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to > admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in > explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which > they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their > lives." > Leo Tolstoy > Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more > complaints to my personal email than any other controversial > post I have made to date, bar none?: > caveat > If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would > rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you > have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke > him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, > hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are > appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, > or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your > dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. > Sincerely, > Jerry Howe, > Wits’ End Dog Training > http://www.doggydoright.com > Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. > -Francis Bacon- > There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, > bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who > ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. > -Nietzsche- > The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned > qualities. > The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning > centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, > develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. > The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split > seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless > hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. > -Jerry Howe-

Response:

Another mental case. j;~)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I don’t *care* what richardson wrote, what you wrote teaches young people to > be mean. Period. > I hope you are proud of yourself. Good job. > > Is this what you want to teach young people? What is wrong with > you?? What > > kind of "adult" are you??? You are a shame… > O.K., genius, > Since your COWARDLY buddy richardson has twice refused to give any > defense of his own words, why don’t YOU go over my post and see if > I’m being UNFAIR? Take a good look. Challenge anything you want more > proof of… > Hello richardson, > > You are actually reposting this? > Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? Take it up with my ISP. > > These quotes are your "smoking guns"? > Not at all. That’s just a little warm up. You want some HEAT??? > > You splice in rants about stuff > > that mostly doesn’t even appear > > in my quotes (because they don’t > > appear in my training) and that > > is supposed to be evidence of > > something? > Oh, I must have you confused with the other john richardson who jerks > and chokes dogs to make them friendly and trustworthy, to save them > from the needle… Probably wasn’t you at all. Excuse me… > > It was silly of you to post this once. > Oh gee, oh golly. Silly me, silly me. > > Posting it twice is quite thoroughly ludicrous, I would have to > say. > Must have been an oversight. I just thought this post revealed a > little about the character and mind set of the richardson who abuses > dogs… It couldn’t be you, you’re the nice richardson who HELPS dogs > in NEED. > > But, hey, whatever makes our little Jarjar happy!!!!! > I’ll be happy when you stop hurting bad dogs that scare you, with the > EXCUSE that you are SAVING FROM THE NEEDLE, and learn to train them > instead… > > JohnR > Here it is again, get the grease, this might burn a little…: > "he can expect something firmer from me and my colleage Mark, who > has actually made some real progress with Kahn using corrections > that NO ONE enjoys using" John Richardson. > Hello richardson, > You are a punk. Here’s one of your old posts. You confront, punish, > choke, and probably hang dogs as any koehler trainer MUST be > willing to do. And you kill dogs that won’t knuckle under. > "Unfortunately, many people aren’t, > and shelters like the one I volunteer > at end up clogged with dogs whose > owners failed to train or even mistrained > them. It’s a long way back for some of > them, and time, though generous by > shelter standards, is not unlimited." > So you’re going to HELP by jerking and choking the sit out of the > dog… > "I doubt that anyone around here would > say "yeah, a nice little reward would > work just as well, but I prefer negative > methods"." > Psst! Psssst!! Pssssssst!!! But that IS what you ARE saying, MORON. > "I LOVE it when I can get a > dog like Pablo or Ariel (two of my all > time favorite shelter Pit Bulls) to do > sits, comes, stays and a few goofy > tricks simply by playing fetch games > with them." > Good for you. Go PLAY somewhere and STAY AWAY from ”rescue”. > And THEN you will not KILL dogs because you are WORKING to > SAVE THEM FROM THE NEEDLE by choking, jerking, and HANGING them. > " But when a dog like Kahn > (a current inmate in serious trouble) > starts grabbing at hands and sleeves > and taking flying leaps over six foot > fences to get at other dogs, he can > expect something firmer from me > and my colleage Mark, who has > actually made some real progress > with Kahn using corrections that > NO ONE enjoys using." > That’s NICE john. You PROVOKE dogs, instead of train them. You > have NO RIGHT dealing with any SHELTER or RESCUE program, > you are an ignorant, vicious, brutal, THUG. > HERE’S PROOF: > > Oh yeah, re Cindy and Dogman. > They’re good people. Promise. > I recognize that Dogman, like > my buddy Olddog, can be an > "acquired taste". But I do > recommend acquiring that > taste." > Yes, two anonymous dog fighters or puppy mill operators who ENJOY > HANGING DOGS to REHABILITATE them… to save them > from the needle, of course… heh, heh, heh. > "Cindy is, shall we say, > a less exotic flavor. But she is > firm and confident and that > can always be off-putting, I > suppose, even though it really > shouldn’t. She’s one of the > absolute tiptop rescue people > in a newsgroup full of rescue- > oriented folk." > Yes, she is WELL RESPECTED among people who ENJOY twisting > and pinching dog’s ears, toes, and testicles… to TRAIN them for ALL > ADVANCED WORK. She is a brutal sadist who has been VICIOUSLY > EXPOSED by me… > "And it’s more fun to get along with her than not to get along with > her." > No problem, she’s been discredited and humiliated and she’s about > ready to climb under a flat damp rock and never come back again, > along with the rest of our Gang Of Thugs. > "That I can guarantee 100%." > Wrong, john. You and you vicious punk pals who HURT dogs and call > that training will be EXPOSED, DISCREDITED, and FORGOTTEN… > THAT I GUARANTEE 100%. > "All for now!" > You haven’t seen NUTHIN yet. You’ll be recognized for what you are, > and NO ONE will have any more to do with you, ESPECIALLY at the > ‘’shelter” you so generously "HELP DESTROY DOGS FOR." > JohnR > Pit Bull Libertarian > You are the problem. You meet aggressive dogs with violence, and then > KILL THEM, because you have no INTELLIGENT METHODS of > handling and training them. You have no right "helping” any > shelters. > "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and > judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin > "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. > DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) > "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. > "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems > of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the > simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to > admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in > explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which > they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their > lives." > Leo Tolstoy > Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more > complaints to my personal email than any other controversial > post I have made to date, bar none?: > caveat > If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would > rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you > have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke > him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, > hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are > appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, > or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your > dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. > Sincerely, > Jerry Howe, > Wits’ End Dog Training > http://www.doggydoright.com > Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. > -Francis Bacon- > There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, > bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who > ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. > -Nietzsche- > The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned > qualities. > The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning > centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, > develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. > The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split > seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless > hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. > -Jerry Howe-

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Jerry writes:

:Oh, gee, that’s real relevant, isn’t it? :Why don’t you just pull up the post :and go over it and CORRECT ME??? I’ll leave that as a trivial exercise to anyone who bothers to wade through your post. JohnR Pit Bull Libertarian Never sneer at the power of a little pink squeaky toy!

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Is this what you want to teach young people? What is wrong with you?? What kind of "adult" are you??? You are a shame…

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Oh, gee, that’s real relevant, isn’t it? Why don’t you just pull up > the post and go over it and CORRECT ME??? > YOU GOT NO ANSWER? GEE, I WONDER WHY??? J:-( > Jerry Howe writes: > :Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? > :Take it up with my ISP. > No complaints. Just baffled a bit over > why you would want to demonstrate > so clearly to the newsgroup what an > illiterate moron you are. I mean, even > I have always assumed that you had > at least a dozen functioning brain cells. > Apparently not. > JohnR > Pit Bull Libertarian > Never sneer at the power of a little > pink squeaky toy!

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COWARD. j;~) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jerry writes: > :Oh, gee, that’s real relevant, isn’t it? > :Why don’t you just pull up the post > :and go over it and CORRECT ME??? > I’ll leave that as a trivial exercise to > anyone who bothers to wade > through your post. > JohnR > Pit Bull Libertarian > Never sneer at the power of a little > pink squeaky toy!

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> Is this what you want to teach young people? What is wrong with you?? What > kind of "adult" are you??? You are a shame…

O.K., genius, Since your COWARDLY buddy richardson has twice refused to give any defense of his own words, why don’t YOU go over my post and see if I’m being UNFAIR? Take a good look. Challenge anything you want more proof of… Hello richardson, > You are actually reposting this?

Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? Take it up with my ISP. > These quotes are your "smoking guns"?

Not at all. That’s just a little warm up. You want some HEAT??? > You splice in rants about stuff > that mostly doesn’t even appear > in my quotes (because they don’t > appear in my training) and that > is supposed to be evidence of > something?

Oh, I must have you confused with the other john richardson who jerks and chokes dogs to make them friendly and trustworthy, to save them from the needle… Probably wasn’t you at all. Excuse me… > It was silly of you to post this once.

Oh gee, oh golly. Silly me, silly me. > Posting it twice is quite thoroughly ludicrous, I would have to

say. Must have been an oversight. I just thought this post revealed a little about the character and mind set of the richardson who abuses dogs… It couldn’t be you, you’re the nice richardson who HELPS dogs in NEED. > But, hey, whatever makes our little Jarjar happy!!!!!

I’ll be happy when you stop hurting bad dogs that scare you, with the EXCUSE that you are SAVING FROM THE NEEDLE, and learn to train them instead… > JohnR

Here it is again, get the grease, this might burn a little…: "he can expect something firmer from me and my colleage Mark, who has actually made some real progress with Kahn using corrections that NO ONE enjoys using" John Richardson. Hello richardson, You are a punk. Here’s one of your old posts. You confront, punish, choke, and probably hang dogs as any koehler trainer MUST be willing to do. And you kill dogs that won’t knuckle under. "Unfortunately, many people aren’t, and shelters like the one I volunteer at end up clogged with dogs whose owners failed to train or even mistrained them. It’s a long way back for some of them, and time, though generous by shelter standards, is not unlimited." So you’re going to HELP by jerking and choking the sit out of the dog… "I doubt that anyone around here would say "yeah, a nice little reward would work just as well, but I prefer negative methods"." Psst! Psssst!! Pssssssst!!! But that IS what you ARE saying, MORON. "I LOVE it when I can get a dog like Pablo or Ariel (two of my all time favorite shelter Pit Bulls) to do sits, comes, stays and a few goofy tricks simply by playing fetch games with them." Good for you. Go PLAY somewhere and STAY AWAY from ”rescue”. And THEN you will not KILL dogs because you are WORKING to SAVE THEM FROM THE NEEDLE by choking, jerking, and HANGING them. " But when a dog like Kahn (a current inmate in serious trouble) starts grabbing at hands and sleeves and taking flying leaps over six foot fences to get at other dogs, he can expect something firmer from me and my colleage Mark, who has actually made some real progress with Kahn using corrections that NO ONE enjoys using." That’s NICE john. You PROVOKE dogs, instead of train them. You have NO RIGHT dealing with any SHELTER or RESCUE program, you are an ignorant, vicious, brutal, THUG. HERE’S PROOF: > Oh yeah, re Cindy and Dogman.

They’re good people. Promise. I recognize that Dogman, like my buddy Olddog, can be an "acquired taste". But I do recommend acquiring that taste." Yes, two anonymous dog fighters or puppy mill operators who ENJOY HANGING DOGS to REHABILITATE them… to save them from the needle, of course… heh, heh, heh. "Cindy is, shall we say, a less exotic flavor. But she is firm and confident and that can always be off-putting, I suppose, even though it really shouldn’t. She’s one of the absolute tiptop rescue people in a newsgroup full of rescue- oriented folk." Yes, she is WELL RESPECTED among people who ENJOY twisting and pinching dog’s ears, toes, and testicles… to TRAIN them for ALL ADVANCED WORK. She is a brutal sadist who has been VICIOUSLY EXPOSED by me… "And it’s more fun to get along with her than not to get along with her." No problem, she’s been discredited and humiliated and she’s about ready to climb under a flat damp rock and never come back again, along with the rest of our Gang Of Thugs. "That I can guarantee 100%." Wrong, john. You and you vicious punk pals who HURT dogs and call that training will be EXPOSED, DISCREDITED, and FORGOTTEN… THAT I GUARANTEE 100%. "All for now!" You haven’t seen NUTHIN yet. You’ll be recognized for what you are, and NO ONE will have any more to do with you, ESPECIALLY at the ‘’shelter” you so generously "HELP DESTROY DOGS FOR." JohnR Pit Bull Libertarian You are the problem. You meet aggressive dogs with violence, and then KILL THEM, because you have no INTELLIGENT METHODS of handling and training them. You have no right "helping” any shelters. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-

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Jerry Howe writes:

:Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? :Take it up with my ISP. No complaints. Just baffled a bit over why you would want to demonstrate so clearly to the newsgroup what an illiterate moron you are. I mean, even I have always assumed that you had at least a dozen functioning brain cells. Apparently not. JohnR Pit Bull Libertarian Never sneer at the power of a little pink squeaky toy!

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Oh, gee, that’s real relevant, isn’t it? Why don’t you just pull up the post and go over it and CORRECT ME??? YOU GOT NO ANSWER? GEE, I WONDER WHY??? J:-( – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Jerry Howe writes: > :Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? > :Take it up with my ISP. > No complaints. Just baffled a bit over > why you would want to demonstrate > so clearly to the newsgroup what an > illiterate moron you are. I mean, even > I have always assumed that you had > at least a dozen functioning brain cells. > Apparently not. > JohnR > Pit Bull Libertarian > Never sneer at the power of a little > pink squeaky toy!

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"he can expect something firmer from me and my colleage Mark, who has actually made some real progress with Kahn using corrections that NO ONE enjoys using" John Richardson. Hello richardson, You are a punk. Here’s one of your old posts. You confront, punish, choke, and probably hang dogs as any koehler trainer MUST be willing to do. And you kill dogs that won’t knuckle under. "Unfortunately, many people aren’t, and shelters like the one I volunteer at end up clogged with dogs whose owners failed to train or even mistrained them. It’s a long way back for some of them, and time, though generous by shelter standards, is not unlimited." So you’re going to HELP by jerking and choking the sit out of the dog… "I doubt that anyone around here would say "yeah, a nice little reward would work just as well, but I prefer negative methods"." Psst! Psssst!! Pssssssst!!! But that IS what you ARE saying, MORON. "I LOVE it when I can get a dog like Pablo or Ariel (two of my all time favorite shelter Pit Bulls) to do sits, comes, stays and a few goofy tricks simply by playing fetch games with them." Good for you. Go PLAY somewhere and STAY AWAY from ”rescue”. And THEN you will not KILL dogs because you are WORKING to SAVE THEM FROM THE NEEDLE by choking, jerking, and HANGING them. " But when a dog like Kahn (a current inmate in serious trouble) starts grabbing at hands and sleeves and taking flying leaps over six foot fences to get at other dogs, he can expect something firmer from me and my colleage Mark, who has actually made some real progress with Kahn using corrections that NO ONE enjoys using." That’s NICE john. You PROVOKE dogs, instead of train them. You have NO RIGHT dealing with any SHELTER or RESCUE program, you are an ignorant, vicious, brutal, THUG. HERE’S PROOF: > Oh yeah, re Cindy and Dogman.

They’re good people. Promise. I recognize that Dogman, like my buddy Olddog, can be an "acquired taste". But I do recommend acquiring that taste." Yes, two anonymous dog fighters or puppy mill operators who ENJOY HANGING DOGS to REHABILITATE them… to save them from the needle, of course… heh, heh, heh. "Cindy is, shall we say, a less exotic flavor. But she is firm and confident and that can always be off-putting, I suppose, even though it really shouldn’t. She’s one of the absolute tiptop rescue people in a newsgroup full of rescue- oriented folk." Yes, she is WELL RESPECTED among people who ENJOY twisting and pinching dog’s ears, toes, and testicles… to TRAIN them for ALL ADVANCED WORK. She is a brutal sadist who has been VICIOUSLY EXPOSED by me… "And it’s more fun to get along with her than not to get along with her." No problem, she’s been discredited and humiliated and she’s about ready to climb under a flat damp rock and never come back again, along with the rest of our Gang Of Thugs. "That I can guarantee 100%." Wrong, john. You and you vicious punk pals who HURT dogs and call that training will be EXPOSED, DISCREDITED, and FORGOTTEN… THAT I GUARANTEE 100%. "All for now!" You haven’t seen NUTHIN yet. You’ll be recognized for what you are, and NO ONE will have any more to do with you, ESPECIALLY at the ‘’shelter” you so generously "HELP DESTROY DOGS FOR." JohnR Pit Bull Libertarian You are the problem. You meet aggressive dogs with violence, and then KILL THEM, because you have no INTELLIGENT METHODS of handling and training them. You have no right "helping” any shelters. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. ;~) DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… J>>> "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-

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And heres JERRY HOWE DY DOODY teaching you HOWE to abuse and kill you dog Jerry Howe (Mr Helper) (Mr. Nice Guy) Is mentally unstable and ABUSES dogs.he is worse than a SHOCK COLLAR…the proof

"If the dog is trained properly, he does not think of his protection training as fun and games at the big dog park. During a protection class, the dogs temperature should go up to 106 and he should have loose stools within two or three minutes of beginning the lesson." He tortures dogs till they have a temperature of 106 and have the runs. He is also a puppy mill breeder "I grew up in a professional breeding kennel. I’ve owned stud dogs who’ve sired hundreds of puppies. I’ve whelped thousands of puppies" HOWE disgusting you are JERRY Jerry Howe 626 Raleigh St Orlando, FL 32805 407-425-5092 Jerry Howe and his Doggy Do Wrong are being investigated for fraud. http://www.sound.net/~twillis/Harlan/concerns.html http://deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=516286408W A List of Jerry’s References from the newsgroups "Jerry Howe is a freak… I have my doubts as to whether he has ever even SEEN a dog never mind trained one. " "That’s not a training method. It’s an abuse method. Pray tell, how does this asshole who has no business touching a dog, much less training one, achieve and control the temperature spike? " "Yeah, that’s rich. He’ll make a dog sick enough to die, ON PURPOSE, but ridicules choke chains?" "He’s rude, annoying, obnoxious, and every other word in the book" "Doesn’t he sell magic black boxes? " "That would be the same person…his magic black box will cure *any* behavior problem, don’t you know? " "It does? It must be used by whacking the dog over the head….I’d like him to demonstrate on himself… " "And yet do you notice that the second anyone talks about choke collars and prong collars and hanging, pinching or twisting he calls it animal abuse? And spiking a dogs temp like that isent? He is a lunatic… best to be ignored. " Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com

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You are actually reposting this? These quotes are your "smoking guns"? You splice in rants about stuff that mostly doesn’t even appear in my quotes (because they don’t appear in my training) and that is supposed to be evidence of something? It was silly of you to post this once. Posting it twice is quite thoroughly ludicrous, I would have to say. But, hey, whatever makes our little Jarjar happy!!!!! JohnR Pit Bull Libertarian Never sneer at the power of a little pink squeaky toy!

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Hello richardson, > You are actually reposting this?

Yeah. It’s your own word, got any complaints? Take it up with my ISP. > These quotes are your "smoking guns"?

Oh gee, oh golly. Silly me, silly me. > Posting it twice is quite thoroughly ludicrous, I would have to

say. Must have been an oversite. I just thought this post revealed a little about the character and mind set of the richardson who abuses dogs… It couldn’t be you, you’re the nice richardson who HELPS dogs in NEED. > But, hey, whatever makes our little Jarjar happy!!!!!

I’ll be happy when you stop hurting bad dogs that scare you, with the EXCUSE that you are SAVING FROM THE NEEDLE, and learn to train them instead… > JohnR

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