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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->What is your problem, man? Why is it that everything someone says needs >to get a smart ass comment? It’s really sad. I don’t see why you need to >keep doing that. If what you’re saying is true just leave it alone. >You’re really being rude and that’s not what newsgroups are about. Just >cool down man and stop attacking everyone at every chance you get. Even >if they’ve done something to you, just be the mature one. > >Have had an enjoyable time going around touching dog-whiskers.  It’s > >true!  The lightest touch and they blink on that side. > Yes MORON by all means do go around teasing dogs. > Your Pal, Jerry; ~}}} > Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: > "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of > anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there > is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I > would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a > single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but > destructive." > RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it > means slap. > amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: > "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the > stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you > to progress to striking them more sharply. > With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." > Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat > "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. > Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," > ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as > force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> > Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that > resisting your will fades in importance.>>> > "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to > escaping the ear pinch>>> > You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your > thumb;>>> > even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against > that>>> > Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching > its ear.>>> > if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. > Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the > buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" > AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: ACCORDING TO DAD > Diane Blackman, > Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits > cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on > akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the > less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE > HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. > She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she > day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her > links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy > ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough > about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink > of that? > Janet Boss, > Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as > incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing > THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling > people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog > around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread > ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums > mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t > outwit a puppydog… > Susan Fraser, > susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on > pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. > Avrama Gingold, > Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat > when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it > look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama > had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made > it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my > word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. > Lynn Kosmakos, > Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according > to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many > dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she > kills dogs at. > Bob Maida, > What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes > about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. > If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top > of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said > he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell > him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has > instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke > them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing > the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, > pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads > under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of > digging. > I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from > him… > Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate > me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a > threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… > Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying > me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a > good deal on some dead bikers machines. > Cindy Tittle Moore, > A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read > her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just > at the thought of hurting dogs. > Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? > Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front > of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the > same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who > the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as > expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced > fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a > FAIR TEST??? > Denna Pace, > Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of > problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. > Marily Rammell, > what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? > John Richardson, > He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and > immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt > into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike > yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler > taught him. > Ludwig Smith, > Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he > believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we > can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s > page on his sig file… > and Terri Willis. > The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating > for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. > "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge > things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin > "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. > DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) > "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. > "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the > greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most > obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of > conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, > proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, > into the fabric of their lives." > Leo Tolstoy > Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more > complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I > have made to date, bar none?: > caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you > would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you > have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, > pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or > punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the > dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not > harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for > a trainer that knows Howe. > Wits’ End Dog Training > http://www.doggydoright.com > Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. > -Francis Bacon- > There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it > and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit > the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. > -Nietzsche- > The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned > qualities. > The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in > the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue > to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. > The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split > seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of

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What is your problem, man? Why is it that everything someone says needs to get a smart ass comment? It’s really sad. I don’t see why you need to keep doing that. If what you’re saying is true just leave it alone. You’re really being rude and that’s not what newsgroups are about. Just cool down man and stop attacking everyone at every chance you get. Even if they’ve done something to you, just be the mature one. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Have had an enjoyable time going around touching dog-whiskers.  It’s >true!  The lightest touch and they blink on that side. > Yes MORON by all means do go around teasing dogs. > Your Pal, Jerry; ~}}} > Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: > "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of > anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there > is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I > would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a > single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but > destructive." > RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it > means slap. > amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: > "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the > stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you > to progress to striking them more sharply. > With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." > Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat > "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. > Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," > ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as > force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> > Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that > resisting your will fades in importance.>>> > "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to > escaping the ear pinch>>> > You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your > thumb;>>> > even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against > that>>> > Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching > its ear.>>> > if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. > Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the > buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" > AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: ACCORDING TO DAD > Diane Blackman, > Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits > cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on > akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the > less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE > HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. > She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she > day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her > links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy > ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough > about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink > of that? > Janet Boss, > Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as > incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing > THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling > people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog > around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread > ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums > mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t > outwit a puppydog… > Susan Fraser, > susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on > pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. > Avrama Gingold, > Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat > when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it > look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama > had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made > it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my > word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. > Lynn Kosmakos, > Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according > to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many > dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she > kills dogs at. > Bob Maida, > What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes > about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. > If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top > of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said > he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell > him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has > instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke > them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing > the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, > pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads > under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of > digging. > I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from > him… > Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate > me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a > threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… > Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying > me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a > good deal on some dead bikers machines. > Cindy Tittle Moore, > A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read > her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just > at the thought of hurting dogs. > Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? > Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front > of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the > same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who > the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as > expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced > fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a > FAIR TEST??? > Denna Pace, > Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of > problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. > Marily Rammell, > what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? > John Richardson, > He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and > immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt > into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike > yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler > taught him. > Ludwig Smith, > Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he > believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we > can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s > page on his sig file… > and Terri Willis. > The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating > for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. > "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge > things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin > "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. > DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) > "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. > "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the > greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most > obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of > conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, > proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, > into the fabric of their lives." > Leo Tolstoy > Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more > complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I > have made to date, bar none?: > caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you > would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you > have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, > pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or > punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the > dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not > harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for > a trainer that knows Howe. > Wits’ End Dog Training > http://www.doggydoright.com > Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. > -Francis Bacon- > There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it > and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit > the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. > -Nietzsche- > The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned > qualities. > The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in > the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue > to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. > The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split > seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of > forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. > Jerry Howe

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Have had an enjoyable time going around touching dog-whiskers.  It’s true!  The lightest touch and they blink on that side.

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> Quote: > .yup, they are > whiskers too.

  Yup. I realised that some years ago- my tuxedo cat, Reilly, had all-white whiskers; which made them really stand out against his black fur. Once I’d noticed them on *him*, I started noticing them on my other cats… they grow in little clusters.   Haven’t tried the dog-whisker experiment yet, though.

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> Quote: >  Now do you understand > the "Speaking of werewolves, Raisin…."? > Oh >

  Jane, don’t you pay any attention to Chris- he’s just jealous.  I, for one, am thoroughly enjoying puppy-by-proxy- your descriptions are great!

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>Have had an enjoyable time going around touching dog-whiskers.  It’s >true!  The lightest touch and they blink on that side.

Yes MORON by all means do go around teasing dogs. Your Pal, Jerry; ~}}} Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it means slap. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.>>> "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch>>> You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb;>>> even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that>>> Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear.>>> if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: ACCORDING TO DAD Diane Blackman, Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink of that? Janet Boss, Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t outwit a puppydog… Susan Fraser, susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. Avrama Gingold, Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. Lynn Kosmakos, Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she kills dogs at. Bob Maida, What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of digging. I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from him… Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a good deal on some dead bikers machines. Cindy Tittle Moore, A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just at the thought of hurting dogs. Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a FAIR TEST??? Denna Pace, Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. Marily Rammell, what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? John Richardson, He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler taught him. Ludwig Smith, Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s page on his sig file… and Terri Willis. The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. Jerry Howe

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Quote:  Now do you understand the "Speaking of werewolves, Raisin…."? Oh Jane Webb  & Moonpie & Raisin Pie

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Quote: .yup, they are whiskers too. Well, I’ll be……. Jane Webb  & Moonpie & Raisin Pie

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Quote: Don’t run them thru cover till grown back… So I see — din know that. I don’t intend to deqhiske anyone. On dogs that get shaved for the ring, I dunnohow you’d avoid it — but GSPs have so little fur that every bit counts. Jane Webb  & Moonpie & Raisin Pie

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>Quote: >.yup, they are >whiskers too. >Well, I’ll be……. >Jane Webb > & Moonpie & Raisin Pie

You certainly are….but there is also a cure for that it’s called a lobotomy. Your Pal, Jerry; ~}}} Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it means slap. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.>>> "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch>>> You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb;>>> even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that>>> Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear.>>> if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: ACCORDING TO DAD Diane Blackman, Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink of that? Janet Boss, Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t outwit a puppydog… Susan Fraser, susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. Avrama Gingold, Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. Lynn Kosmakos, Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she kills dogs at. Bob Maida, What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of digging. I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from him… Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a good deal on some dead bikers machines. Cindy Tittle Moore, A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just at the thought of hurting dogs. Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a FAIR TEST??? Denna Pace, Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. Marily Rammell, what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? John Richardson, He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler taught him. Ludwig Smith, Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s page on his sig file… and Terri Willis. The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. Jerry Howe

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I don’t understand if you’re trying to be a jerk of if it’s just natural. I’ve read some of your posts. The bickering that goes on in this place is worse than grade school. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As far as I know, it serves kind of the same purpose on dogs. I don’t >think a dog’s close up vision is that great, so they use them to sense >things. Although, I’m not sure of this. One time my miniature american >eskimo got a short haircut from an evil, evil groomer, and was deprived >of her whiskers for a little while. She seemed to be having a problem up >close with things. But then again, this is just based on an experience I >had and I may be way off. >>    …..we’re told, are an important sensory organ, telling them, among >> other things, how small a hole they can get into. >>   So, do dogs’ whiskers serve any purpose?  Mac moves his, but I don’t >> know what he means by it. > Hello Baby Huey > You are WAY OFF > Your Pal, Jerry; ~} > Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: > "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of > anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there > is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I > would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a > single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but > destructive." > RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it > means slap. > amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: > "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the > stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you > to progress to striking them more sharply. > With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." > Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat > "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. > Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," > ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as > force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> > Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that > resisting your will fades in importance.>>> > "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to > escaping the ear pinch>>> > You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your > thumb;>>> > even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against > that>>> > Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching > its ear.>>> > if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. > Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the > buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" > AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: > Diane Blackman, > Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits > cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on > akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the > less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE > HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. > She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she > day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her > links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy > ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough > about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink > of that? > Janet Boss, > Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as > incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing > THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling > people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog > around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread > ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums > mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t > outwit a puppydog… > Susan Fraser, > susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on > pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. > Avrama Gingold, > Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat > when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it > look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama > had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made > it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my > word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. > Lynn Kosmakos, > Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according > to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many > dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she > kills dogs at. > Bob Maida, > What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes > about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. > If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top > of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said > he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell > him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has > instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke > them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing > the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, > pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads > under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of > digging. > I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from > him… > Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate > me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a > threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… > Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying > me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a > good deal on some dead bikers machines. > Cindy Tittle Moore, > A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read > her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just > at the thought of hurting dogs. > Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? > Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front > of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the > same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who > the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as > expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced > fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a > FAIR TEST??? > Denna Pace, > Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of > problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. > Marily Rammell, > what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? > John Richardson, > He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and > immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt > into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike > yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler > taught him. > Ludwig Smith, > Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he > believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we > can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s > page on his sig file… > and Terri Willis. > The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating > for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. > "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge > things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne > "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin > "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. > DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) > "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. > "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the > greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most > obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of > conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, > proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, > into the fabric of their lives." > Leo Tolstoy > Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more > complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I > have made to date, bar none?: > caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you > would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you > have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, > pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or > punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the > dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not > harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for > a trainer that knows Howe. > Sincerely, > Jerry Howe, > Wits’ End Dog Training > http://www.doggydoright.com > Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. > -Francis Bacon- > There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it > and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit > the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. > -Nietzsche- > The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned > qualities. > The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in > the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue > to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. > The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split > seconds of canine thought, strategy,

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Moore) stitched with finest floss on pure irish linen: >Cat whiskers might be more sensitive (and they’re also longer relative >to the cat’s size than dogs’ are), but they both serve about the same >function. >Cats need their whiskers for navigation, particularly at night, and to >check holes for fit (if whiskers will go through, so can cat).  Did >you know that cats have whiskers all over their bodies?  If you look >closely at the coat of a short-haired cat, say along the sides of the >body, you will notice what appear to be slightly longer hairs about >every inch or so.  If you touch these "hairs" the cat will respond by >giving a mighty twitch.  When you feel these "hairs", you will notice >that they are thicker than the others, and stiffer…..yup, they are >whiskers too. >— >Ruth Mays >Beautiful Downtown Cinnaminson >It’s important to keep an open mind, >But not so open that your brains fall out.

And you are a MORON and a MENTAL CASE. Your Pal, Jerry; ~} Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it means slap. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.>>> "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch>>> You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb;>>> even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that>>> Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear.>>> if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: Diane Blackman, Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink of that? Janet Boss, Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t outwit a puppydog… Susan Fraser, susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. Avrama Gingold, Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. Lynn Kosmakos, Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she kills dogs at. Bob Maida, What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of digging. I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from him… Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a good deal on some dead bikers machines. Cindy Tittle Moore, A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just at the thought of hurting dogs. Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a FAIR TEST??? Denna Pace, Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. Marily Rammell, what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? John Richardson, He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler taught him. Ludwig Smith, Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s page on his sig file… and Terri Willis. The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-

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Moore) stitched with finest floss on pure irish linen: >Cat whiskers might be more sensitive (and they’re also longer relative >to the cat’s size than dogs’ are), but they both serve about the same >function.

Cats need their whiskers for navigation, particularly at night, and to check holes for fit (if whiskers will go through, so can cat).  Did you know that cats have whiskers all over their bodies?  If you look closely at the coat of a short-haired cat, say along the sides of the body, you will notice what appear to be slightly longer hairs about every inch or so.  If you touch these "hairs" the cat will respond by giving a mighty twitch.  When you feel these "hairs", you will notice that they are thicker than the others, and stiffer…..yup, they are whiskers too. — Ruth Mays Beautiful Downtown Cinnaminson It’s important to keep an open mind, But not so open that your brains fall out.

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>THe whiskers help them blink at the right > time.

  Now _that is perfectly fascinating.

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>>THe whiskers help them blink at the right > time. >  Now _that is perfectly fascinating.

And only you are dumb enough to believe that Your Pal, Jerry; ~} Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it means slap. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.>>> "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch>>> You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb;>>> even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that>>> Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear.>>> if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: Diane Blackman, Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink of that? Janet Boss, Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t outwit a puppydog… Susan Fraser, susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. Avrama Gingold, Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. Lynn Kosmakos, Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she kills dogs at. Bob Maida, What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of digging. I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from him… Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a good deal on some dead bikers machines. Cindy Tittle Moore, A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just at the thought of hurting dogs. Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a FAIR TEST??? Denna Pace, Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. Marily Rammell, what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? John Richardson, He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler taught him. Ludwig Smith, Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s page on his sig file… and Terri Willis. The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->As far as I know, it serves kind of the same purpose on dogs. I don’t >think a dog’s close up vision is that great, so they use them to sense >things. >That’s correct, you were quite observant with what happened to your dog. >In the field, it’s common knowledge that if the whiskers are taken off >(as sometimes happens with dogs also shown in breed), they get more facial >injuries when running through cover, esp. around the eyes.  THe whiskers >help them blink at the right time. >Cat whiskers might be more sensitive (and they’re also longer relative >to the cat’s size than dogs’ are), but they both serve about the same >function. >In those breeds that work in the field there’s often a controversy >between the bench and field folk over cutting whiskers.  Ther’es a >small bit of that in labs (not many lab folks take whiskers off), but >it’s a bigger argument in goldens, where goldens are customarily >dewhiskered for a show. >–Cindy

It’s only an arguement among MORONS like you. Your Pal, Jerry; ~} Amy lyingfrosty Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: "I don’t beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there is NO mention in it of "twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive." RIGHT. She PINCHES, not twists… and chin cuff doesn’t mean hit, it means slap. amy lyingfrosty dahl continues: "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. With your hand on the collar and ear, say, "fetch." Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick. Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy. Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog," ">>>Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch.>>> Make the dog’s need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.>>> "but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch>>> You can press the dog’s ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb;>>> even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that>>> Say "fetch" while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching its ear.>>> if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the metal casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in>>>" AND HERE’S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP: Diane Blackman, Yes, diane… She’s as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won’t SEE the prongs and think the less of her… She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE HASN’T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, LIKE YOU DID. She’s got a dog who’s been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can’t trust them at home alone. Her links page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won’t edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn’t know enough about training to discern good from bad information… Whaddaya thaink of that? Janet Boss, Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She’s as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I’ll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there… She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ”interested in hearing” and you’ll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don’t have any IDEAS and can’t outwit a puppydog… Susan Fraser, susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn’t hurt them. Avrama Gingold, Our Professora… She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That’s called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don’t take my word for it, that’s in the Wits’ End Dog Training Method manual. Lynn Kosmakos, Our pathological liar? She jerks and chokes and hangs dogs according to the koehler method. She justifies force because there are so many dogs to HELP and such little time to HELP them all, at the shelter she kills dogs at. Bob Maida, What advice? "Don’t let him do that?" Killfiles is all he writes about. He can’t talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he’s craping toenails… He’s no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron’s Website to his ‘’students” and they tell him HOWE much they’ve benefited from it… cindymron’s site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog’s heads under water you’ve filled into a hole he’s dug to break dogs of digging. I guess boob’s student’s only learned the jerking and choking from him… Your pal boob had been begging his ”teacher” cap’n fagarty to debate me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a threatening letter saying she’d sue me if I told the truth here… Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying me a little visit… Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a good deal on some dead bikers machines. Cindy Tittle Moore, A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just at the thought of hurting dogs. Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? Here’s the deal… We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front of a childs playground, and I’ll train three protection dogs in the same site, and we’ll see who the children are disturbed by, and who the parents are going to call the cops on… And then I’ll show ups as expert witness for the prosecution, and we’ll demonstrate her forced fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury… HOWE’S that for a FAIR TEST??? Denna Pace, Says she sees a lot of value in koehler… She’s got PLENTY of problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. Marily Rammell, what the hell is she doing in this lineup of Thugs? John Richardson, He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He’s as abusive and immature as they come. He’s a clone of dogman. The dogs he can’t hurt into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike yourself, he’s too stupid to be evil. He’s just doing what koehler taught him. Ludwig Smith, Another koehler trainer. He’s too cowardly to come out and say what he believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we can get more help in koehler’s books. He’s got a link to cindymoron’s page on his sig file… and Terri Willis. The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. "Thus we should beware of clinging to vulgar opinions, and judge things by reason’s way, not by popular say." Montaigne "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." Salvor Hardin "If you cannot convince them, confuse them." H.S. Truman. DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… j;~) "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-

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Quote: evil groomer, and was deprived of her whiskers for a little while. GSPs for sure, and others I believe, with clean short-haired muzzles, are routinely shorn of their whispers for the show ring. Does them no harm atall. Jane Webb  & Moonpie & Raisin Pie

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>Puppy whispers curl forward. >Raisin has one white one on the right > side. Just thought I’d throw that in. >Jane Webb >