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I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change. I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. But! I have not smoked in almost a week! AJ
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>But! I have not smoked in almost a week!
AJ, Let me be among the first to congratulate you. Nicely done! Hard as hell too, I’ll wager. The weight is one factor I’d suggest you ignore for the time being. Let that front fester for a while…good on you! Uncle Sid
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with > this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
Congratulations!! Great job! Meterless Mike
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Congratulations on your upcoming FWD. Just a suggestion FWIW… continuing to put conditions on your quit will more than likely result in relapse. Drink lots of water and increase your exercise to minimize the weight gain and do whatever you got to do to not smoke. It is *so* worth the effort. You are worth the extra effort. Its a matter of life and death. Your life and your death. You can stick with this and you have just proved that you can. And you dont have to gain all that weight back either. Its your choice but if you pick back up on the smokes… then you forfeit the choice. Keep on keeping on. Best wishes, Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some > change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to > stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some > change.
WOW!!!! You GO, AJ!!! Tom HOF+ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to > stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
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> Congratulations on your upcoming FWD.
Ditto! > Just a suggestion FWIW… > continuing to put conditions on your quit will more than likely result in > relapse.
Truer words were never spoken. Whenever an addict says, "I won’t smoke unless x," the addict is pretty much guaranteeing that "x" will occur. That’s how addicts persuade themselves to relapse. A more classic example of "junkie thinking" cannot be found. You’re more likely to stay quit if you make up your mind that, "I won’t smoke no matter what. I won’t smoke even if my head explodes. I won’t smoke even if my ass falls off. I won’t smoke even if I gain 100 pounds." You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. (It’s all related. Everything) If you relapse, all you will have done is gained some weight. You won’t have quit. You’ll just be fatter. And you’ll injure your lungs worse than if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. > Drink lots of water and increase your exercise to minimize the weight gain > and do whatever you got to do to not smoke.
Excellent advice! 1. Don’t smoke. 2. Stop pigging out. 3. Get some exercise. This isn’t rocket science. It isn’t something new. It’s not easy, but it’s really pretty simple. We’ve all done it. You can too. > It is *so* worth the effort. You are worth the extra effort. > Its a matter of life and death. Your life and your death. > You can stick with this and you have just proved that you can. > And you dont have to gain all that weight back either. Its your choice but > if you pick back up on the smokes… then you forfeit the choice.
Well said! epvof – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Keep on keeping on. > Best wishes, > Susan
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Six days five hours is fantastic. Focus on that, the weight can be resolved later. I think Susan wrote you an excellant post. Moll
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with > this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change.
That’s something to be VERY proud of, AJ!! > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with > this if I can’t get my food under control.
Then you didn’t really *want* to quit, huh? Many people gain weight during the early part of their quit. Hell, I gained 45 pounds and have lost half of it again. Try to eat healthier snacks, AJ. For some quitters, the weight gain might be inevitable…..but it isn’t the end of the world and it shouldn’t be the end of your quit either. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week!
That’s FANTASTIC!!!! Now stuff the self-defeating talk and keep at it, AJ…. 
Sally 10+ months – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> AJ
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And you’ll injure your lungs worse than if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. I found this interesting could you explain please. Kim
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Yeah, If thats the case, arnt all "social-smokers" screwed? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > And you’ll injure your lungs worse than > if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. > I found this interesting could you explain please. > Kim
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There’s some research to this effect. Weird, ain’t it? Some study found something to the effect that the typical smoker who relapses smokes more, and smokes harder, after the relapse, and is doing so with already-damaged lungs that have lost their former habituation to smoking and its various irritants, thus truly tearing themselves up. I don’t know where I saw it. It might even be in the FAQs. I’ll look around and see if I can dig it up. In the meantime, that’s the short answer, as best I can remember. epvof
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > And you’ll injure your lungs worse than > if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. > I found this interesting could you explain please. > Kim
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some > change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to > stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
Way to go AJ! A week you’ll never have to do again! If I’m not mistaken, you mentioned joining a fitness club in another thread? If so, go to it. You done the exercise thing before, that’s obvious. I’m of the opinion that a person can eat whatever they want, they just have to exercise in inverse proportion to the health of the ingestion. I don’t want to seem insensitive to your concerns, but when it comes to weight, I couldn’t give two *&^%’s. I _know_ it’ll be gone by May after a month of biking. Besides, I haven’t weighed myself in three years, why would I care now? So what does that last paragraph mean to you . . . stop worrying, start exercising, not only is it a great way to increase your confidence, but it’s also a great way to move through the cravings. Cheers, lance — I haven’t smoked for 1d22h54m. I’ve resisted smoking 48 cigarettes. This has saved me $20.16 CDN. I have gained 4h nothing yet of life.
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I read this in the newspaper about a year or so ago (I think). If you find the article or a link, please post it. I’ve spent a few minutes trying to find it at various times, have never had any luck. Please post it if you find it and I will do the same if I do. I suspect it will raise some *discussion*, but I’d like to read it (the study) again, anyway.. TIA Kita – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > There’s some research to this effect. Weird, ain’t it? Some study found > something to the effect that the typical smoker who relapses smokes more, > and smokes harder, after the relapse, and is doing so with already-damaged > lungs that have lost their former habituation to smoking and its various > irritants, thus truly tearing themselves up. > I don’t know where I saw it. It might even be in the FAQs. I’ll look > around and see if I can dig it up. In the meantime, that’s the short > answer, as best I can remember. > epvof >And you’ll injure your lungs worse than >if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. >I found this interesting could you explain please. >Kim
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> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. > They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. (It’s > all related. Everything)
Totally agree. > If you relapse, all you will have done is gained some weight. You won’t > have quit. You’ll just be fatter.
Totally agree.
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>> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. > They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. >(It’s > all related. Everything) >Totally agree.
Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect control and orderly direction for over a *year*. I don’t have a compulsive eating problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem. You guys both need to deal with your compulsive being-totally-fucking-annoying problem. AJ
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Just a suggestion. If you don’t want replies, suggestion or help, why bother posting? Kita & Edna have been posting here a lot longer than you, and I’d say that the ratio of posts:posts-being-totally-fucking-annoying, you are quiet a bit in front of them already. Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem to want help unless you hear what you want to hear. Frampy
>> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. >> They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. >(It’s >> all related. Everything) >Totally agree. > Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect control > and orderly direction for over a *year*. I don’t have a compulsive eating > problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem. > You guys both need to deal with your compulsive
being-totally-fucking-annoying – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> problem. > AJ
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>Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you >their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem >to want help unless you hear what you want to hear.
Hi. I don’t really give a shit what you think, but feel free to waste your time telling me anyway. It’s your life. AJ
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Thanks, Frampy. It is, of course, unpleasant to get verbal abuse like this in response to an effort to contribute something, and it’s awfully nice to have somebody step up to the plate with good word. :-) On the other hand, I quickly realized that’s all any of us are going to get from this particular poster, though. I’m just hoping that by replying rationally (along with all the others who are replying rationally) I’m counteracting some of her negativity and misinformation for the benefit of anybody else who is reading, FWIW. Believe me, I feel sorrier for her than I do for myself. I am so glad I do not have to live inside a mind that reacts to support or suggestions with "fuck you." It must be hellish. Thanks again. epvof
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just a suggestion. > If you don’t want replies, suggestion or help, why bother > posting? > Kita & Edna have been posting here a lot longer than you, > and I’d say that the ratio of > posts:posts-being-totally-fucking-annoying, you are > quiet a bit in front of them already. > Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you > their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem > to want help unless you hear what you want to hear. > Frampy > >> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your > smoking. > >> They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. > >(It’s > >> all related. Everything) > >Totally agree. > Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect > control > and orderly direction for over a *year*. I don’t have a compulsive eating > problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem. > You guys both need to deal with your compulsive > being-totally-fucking-annoying > problem. > AJ
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Wow, I agree with Frampy! It has been said here before that you need to remember that AS3 members are not punching bags for you to work your frustrations out on. If you post, then expect replies. And while you may not agree with those replies, there is no need whatsoever to take your abuse to a personal level. Frankly, I have stayed away from your posts as I have seen some of the crap you have given ppl here who were trying to assist, advise, and educate. I support you in your quit…and hope you succeed…but I do not support you in your angry posting against quitters here. FWIW… Paula AS3 Kiwi Kwitter
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Is that you Trident? (my must hunble applogies to Trident if I am wrong) *plonk*
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you >their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem >to want help unless you hear what you want to hear. > Hi. > I don’t really give a shit what you think, but feel free to waste your time > telling me anyway. It’s your life. > AJ
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> Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect control > and orderly direction for over a *year*.
If you don’t have compulsive eating issues, how did you get 80 pounds overweight in the first place? > I don’t have a compulsive eating > problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem.
Umm, then why do most of your posts obsess over the weight issue? Why are you worrying about it? Why are you eating "on the hour" as you say, when you aren’t even hungry? What does that have to do with your quit, if you don’t have any food or weight issues? Nothing to be ashamed about with weight issues or eating issues. A lot of us here have them. But to backtrack, change your story, and attack us for pointing it out when it doesn’t serve you.. well that you will get called on.
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>You guys both need to deal with your compulsive being-totally-fucking-annoying >problem.
lolololololol I thought about jumping in here…but Kita and Edna can take care of this…. Jeez AJ…change the record! steveb
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I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change. I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. But! I have not smoked in almost a week! AJ
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>But! I have not smoked in almost a week!
AJ, Let me be among the first to congratulate you. Nicely done! Hard as hell too, I’ll wager. The weight is one factor I’d suggest you ignore for the time being. Let that front fester for a while…good on you! Uncle Sid
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with > this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
Congratulations!! Great job! Meterless Mike
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Congratulations on your upcoming FWD. Just a suggestion FWIW… continuing to put conditions on your quit will more than likely result in relapse. Drink lots of water and increase your exercise to minimize the weight gain and do whatever you got to do to not smoke. It is *so* worth the effort. You are worth the extra effort. Its a matter of life and death. Your life and your death. You can stick with this and you have just proved that you can. And you dont have to gain all that weight back either. Its your choice but if you pick back up on the smokes… then you forfeit the choice. Keep on keeping on. Best wishes, Susan – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some > change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to > stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some > change.
WOW!!!! You GO, AJ!!! Tom HOF+ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to > stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
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> Congratulations on your upcoming FWD.
Ditto! > Just a suggestion FWIW… > continuing to put conditions on your quit will more than likely result in > relapse.
Truer words were never spoken. Whenever an addict says, "I won’t smoke unless x," the addict is pretty much guaranteeing that "x" will occur. That’s how addicts persuade themselves to relapse. A more classic example of "junkie thinking" cannot be found. You’re more likely to stay quit if you make up your mind that, "I won’t smoke no matter what. I won’t smoke even if my head explodes. I won’t smoke even if my ass falls off. I won’t smoke even if I gain 100 pounds." You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. (It’s all related. Everything) If you relapse, all you will have done is gained some weight. You won’t have quit. You’ll just be fatter. And you’ll injure your lungs worse than if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. > Drink lots of water and increase your exercise to minimize the weight gain > and do whatever you got to do to not smoke.
Excellent advice! 1. Don’t smoke. 2. Stop pigging out. 3. Get some exercise. This isn’t rocket science. It isn’t something new. It’s not easy, but it’s really pretty simple. We’ve all done it. You can too. > It is *so* worth the effort. You are worth the extra effort. > Its a matter of life and death. Your life and your death. > You can stick with this and you have just proved that you can. > And you dont have to gain all that weight back either. Its your choice but > if you pick back up on the smokes… then you forfeit the choice.
Well said! epvof – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Keep on keeping on. > Best wishes, > Susan
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Six days five hours is fantastic. Focus on that, the weight can be resolved later. I think Susan wrote you an excellant post. Moll
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with > this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some change.
That’s something to be VERY proud of, AJ!! > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to stick with > this if I can’t get my food under control.
Then you didn’t really *want* to quit, huh? Many people gain weight during the early part of their quit. Hell, I gained 45 pounds and have lost half of it again. Try to eat healthier snacks, AJ. For some quitters, the weight gain might be inevitable…..but it isn’t the end of the world and it shouldn’t be the end of your quit either. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week!
That’s FANTASTIC!!!! Now stuff the self-defeating talk and keep at it, AJ…. Sally 10+ months – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> AJ
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And you’ll injure your lungs worse than if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. I found this interesting could you explain please. Kim
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Yeah, If thats the case, arnt all "social-smokers" screwed? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > And you’ll injure your lungs worse than > if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. > I found this interesting could you explain please. > Kim
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There’s some research to this effect. Weird, ain’t it? Some study found something to the effect that the typical smoker who relapses smokes more, and smokes harder, after the relapse, and is doing so with already-damaged lungs that have lost their former habituation to smoking and its various irritants, thus truly tearing themselves up. I don’t know where I saw it. It might even be in the FAQs. I’ll look around and see if I can dig it up. In the meantime, that’s the short answer, as best I can remember. epvof
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > And you’ll injure your lungs worse than > if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. > I found this interesting could you explain please. > Kim
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> I have now not smoked a cigarette in six days five hours and some > change. > I have gained ten pounds. There is *no way* I am going to be able to > stick with this if I can’t get my food under control. > But! I have not smoked in almost a week! > AJ
Way to go AJ! A week you’ll never have to do again! If I’m not mistaken, you mentioned joining a fitness club in another thread? If so, go to it. You done the exercise thing before, that’s obvious. I’m of the opinion that a person can eat whatever they want, they just have to exercise in inverse proportion to the health of the ingestion. I don’t want to seem insensitive to your concerns, but when it comes to weight, I couldn’t give two *&^%’s. I _know_ it’ll be gone by May after a month of biking. Besides, I haven’t weighed myself in three years, why would I care now? So what does that last paragraph mean to you . . . stop worrying, start exercising, not only is it a great way to increase your confidence, but it’s also a great way to move through the cravings. Cheers, lance — I haven’t smoked for 1d22h54m. I’ve resisted smoking 48 cigarettes. This has saved me $20.16 CDN. I have gained 4h nothing yet of life.
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I read this in the newspaper about a year or so ago (I think). If you find the article or a link, please post it. I’ve spent a few minutes trying to find it at various times, have never had any luck. Please post it if you find it and I will do the same if I do. I suspect it will raise some *discussion*, but I’d like to read it (the study) again, anyway.. TIA Kita – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > There’s some research to this effect. Weird, ain’t it? Some study found > something to the effect that the typical smoker who relapses smokes more, > and smokes harder, after the relapse, and is doing so with already-damaged > lungs that have lost their former habituation to smoking and its various > irritants, thus truly tearing themselves up. > I don’t know where I saw it. It might even be in the FAQs. I’ll look > around and see if I can dig it up. In the meantime, that’s the short > answer, as best I can remember. > epvof >And you’ll injure your lungs worse than >if you had kept smoking all along without "trying" to quit. >I found this interesting could you explain please. >Kim
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> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. > They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. (It’s > all related. Everything)
Totally agree. > If you relapse, all you will have done is gained some weight. You won’t > have quit. You’ll just be fatter.
Totally agree.
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>> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. > They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. >(It’s > all related. Everything) >Totally agree.
Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect control and orderly direction for over a *year*. I don’t have a compulsive eating problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem. You guys both need to deal with your compulsive being-totally-fucking-annoying problem. AJ
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Just a suggestion. If you don’t want replies, suggestion or help, why bother posting? Kita & Edna have been posting here a lot longer than you, and I’d say that the ratio of posts:posts-being-totally-fucking-annoying, you are quiet a bit in front of them already. Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem to want help unless you hear what you want to hear. Frampy
>> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your smoking. >> They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. >(It’s >> all related. Everything) >Totally agree. > Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect control > and orderly direction for over a *year*. I don’t have a compulsive eating > problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem. > You guys both need to deal with your compulsive
being-totally-fucking-annoying – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> problem. > AJ
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>Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you >their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem >to want help unless you hear what you want to hear.
Hi. I don’t really give a shit what you think, but feel free to waste your time telling me anyway. It’s your life. AJ
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Thanks, Frampy. It is, of course, unpleasant to get verbal abuse like this in response to an effort to contribute something, and it’s awfully nice to have somebody step up to the plate with good word. :-) On the other hand, I quickly realized that’s all any of us are going to get from this particular poster, though. I’m just hoping that by replying rationally (along with all the others who are replying rationally) I’m counteracting some of her negativity and misinformation for the benefit of anybody else who is reading, FWIW. Believe me, I feel sorrier for her than I do for myself. I am so glad I do not have to live inside a mind that reacts to support or suggestions with "fuck you." It must be hellish. Thanks again. epvof
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Just a suggestion. > If you don’t want replies, suggestion or help, why bother > posting? > Kita & Edna have been posting here a lot longer than you, > and I’d say that the ratio of > posts:posts-being-totally-fucking-annoying, you are > quiet a bit in front of them already. > Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you > their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem > to want help unless you hear what you want to hear. > Frampy > >> You need to deal with your compulsive eating separately from your > smoking. > >> They are separate problems, with separate (though related) solutions. > >(It’s > >> all related. Everything) > >Totally agree. > Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect > control > and orderly direction for over a *year*. I don’t have a compulsive eating > problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem. > You guys both need to deal with your compulsive > being-totally-fucking-annoying > problem. > AJ
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Wow, I agree with Frampy! It has been said here before that you need to remember that AS3 members are not punching bags for you to work your frustrations out on. If you post, then expect replies. And while you may not agree with those replies, there is no need whatsoever to take your abuse to a personal level. Frankly, I have stayed away from your posts as I have seen some of the crap you have given ppl here who were trying to assist, advise, and educate. I support you in your quit…and hope you succeed…but I do not support you in your angry posting against quitters here. FWIW… Paula AS3 Kiwi Kwitter
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Is that you Trident? (my must hunble applogies to Trident if I am wrong) *plonk*
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Everyone as far as I’ve seen has been to support you >their upmost during your first week, but you don’t seem >to want help unless you hear what you want to hear. > Hi. > I don’t really give a shit what you think, but feel free to waste your time > telling me anyway. It’s your life. > AJ
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> Excuse me? Fuck both of you, I lost a ton of weight, ate with perfect control > and orderly direction for over a *year*.
If you don’t have compulsive eating issues, how did you get 80 pounds overweight in the first place? > I don’t have a compulsive eating > problem. I have a compulsive *smoking* problem.
Umm, then why do most of your posts obsess over the weight issue? Why are you worrying about it? Why are you eating "on the hour" as you say, when you aren’t even hungry? What does that have to do with your quit, if you don’t have any food or weight issues? Nothing to be ashamed about with weight issues or eating issues. A lot of us here have them. But to backtrack, change your story, and attack us for pointing it out when it doesn’t serve you.. well that you will get called on.
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>You guys both need to deal with your compulsive being-totally-fucking-annoying >problem.
lolololololol I thought about jumping in here…but Kita and Edna can take care of this…. Jeez AJ…change the record! steveb
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