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Question:
you just wasted your time and energy, jerry. not one of these people is sincere in their interest. — You are deceived, for I will tell you. Yet if you were not dunces you would never ask me such a question, for is he not *corpus naturale*, and is that not *mobile*? Before you buy.
Response:
Oh…I’m sincere…Jerry is mentally retarded, a moron, liar, fake, fraud, dog ABUSER, and an idiot. And you are his toilet paper. Jerry Howe (Mr Helper) (Mr. Nice Guy) Is mentally unstable and ABUSES dogs.he is worse than a SHOCK COLLAR…the proof
"If the dog is trained properly, he does not think of his protection training as fun and games at the big dog park. During a protection class, the dogs temperature should go up to 106 and he should have loose stools within two or three minutes of beginning the lesson." He tortures dogs till they have a temperature of 106 and have the runs. He is also a puppy mill breeder "I grew up in a professional breeding kennel. I’ve owned stud dogs who’ve sired hundreds of puppies. I’ve whelped thousands of puppies" HOWE disgusting you are JERRY Jerry Howe 626 Raleigh St Orlando, FL 32805 407-425-5092 Jerry Howe and his Doggy Do Wrong are being investigated for fraud. http://www.sound.net/~twillis/Harlan/concerns.html http://deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=516286408W A List of Jerry’s References from the newsgroups "Jerry Howe is a freak… I have my doubts as to whether he has ever even SEEN a dog never mind trained one. " "That’s not a training method. It’s an abuse method. Pray tell, how does this asshole who has no business touching a dog, much less training one, achieve and control the temperature spike? " "Yeah, that’s rich. He’ll make a dog sick enough to die, ON PURPOSE, but ridicules choke chains?" "He’s rude, annoying, obnoxious, and every other word in the book" "Doesn’t he sell magic black boxes? " "That would be the same person…his magic black box will cure *any* behavior problem, don’t you know? " "It does? It must be used by whacking the dog over the head….I’d like him to demonstrate on himself… " "And yet do you notice that the second anyone talks about choke collars and prong collars and hanging, pinching or twisting he calls it animal abuse? And spiking a dogs temp like that isent? He is a lunatic… best to be ignored. " Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Response:
Actually, I did want to know more details. Unfortunately for Jerry, all the details did was prove that he has never actually worked with protection dogs. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt, you see that at best he is creating dogs that are very dangerous to the average person and need to be controlled and worked by experienced handlers, and yet his position here has been that anyone can train any dog in this way. He also has restated his spike and squirt info that can only mean danger to dogs. If he has something worthwhile to say, it is not in the area of protection training. Paula – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > you just wasted your time and energy, jerry. not one of these people is > sincere in their interest. > — > You are deceived, for I will tell you. Yet if you were not dunces you > would never > ask me such a question, for is he not *corpus naturale*, and is that not > *mobile*? > Before you buy.
Response:
>My dogs are extremely reliable. I’ve trained a great many dogs for >working K-9 teams in high security installations and for riot >control.
HAHAHAHAHAHAH on drugs again huh Dimwit…name one >And I’ve had over one hundred legitimate attacks to my own personal >dog’s records.
Is that all…there are more than 100 people here that would like to attack you >I collar train my dogs.
Oh my god …he uses a collar now >I teach them to out before I teach them to bite, so I always get an >instant out, and avoid making them sleeve happy.
There’s the problem…you do everything ass backwards. In order to get a good full deep bite you don’t teach a dog out until it knows HOWE to bite you damn IDIOT My dogs foam at the mouth and their temp >goes >up to 106 degrees in two minutes, and often they’ll come down with a >case of diarrhea after about ten minutes of work.
There you go again trying to KILL the dogs you damn IDIOTIC MORON – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->We observe his level of tension, and when the dog is comfortable, we >test it out… As the dog is doing the makeup, the agitator quickly >pulls his hand back and hisses. If the dog breaks to go after him, we >do the heeling pattern routine again and repeat the make up till the >dog is cool. Then we do poison proofing and argument school, where >the dog is taught to understand an argument or conflict is happening, >and is taught to automatically take his position and be prepared to >attack without a command. When the agitator prepares to strike the >handler, the dog is sent.
This is hilarious…what an imagination. You are quit a character…or should I say mental case. You certainly have proven you know nothing about protection training. Jerry Howe (Mr Helper) (Mr. Nice Guy) Is mentally unstable and ABUSES dogs.he is worse than a SHOCK COLLAR…the proof
"If the dog is trained properly, he does not think of his protection training as fun and games at the big dog park. During a protection class, the dogs temperature should go up to 106 and he should have loose stools within two or three minutes of beginning the lesson." He tortures dogs till they have a temperature of 106 and have the runs. He is also a puppy mill breeder "I grew up in a professional breeding kennel. I’ve owned stud dogs who’ve sired hundreds of puppies. I’ve whelped thousands of puppies" HOWE disgusting you are JERRY Jerry Howe 626 Raleigh St Orlando, FL 32805 407-425-5092 Jerry Howe and his Doggy Do Wrong are being investigated for fraud. http://www.sound.net/~twillis/Harlan/concerns.html http://deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=516286408W A List of Jerry’s References from the newsgroups "Jerry Howe is a freak… I have my doubts as to whether he has ever even SEEN a dog never mind trained one. " "That’s not a training method. It’s an abuse method. Pray tell, how does this asshole who has no business touching a dog, much less training one, achieve and control the temperature spike? " "Yeah, that’s rich. He’ll make a dog sick enough to die, ON PURPOSE, but ridicules choke chains?" "He’s rude, annoying, obnoxious, and every other word in the book" "Doesn’t he sell magic black boxes? " "That would be the same person…his magic black box will cure *any* behavior problem, don’t you know? " "It does? It must be used by whacking the dog over the head….I’d like him to demonstrate on himself… " "And yet do you notice that the second anyone talks about choke collars and prong collars and hanging, pinching or twisting he calls it animal abuse? And spiking a dogs temp like that isent? He is a lunatic… best to be ignored. " Got questions? Get answers over the phone at Keen.com. Up to 100 minutes free! http://www.keen.com
Response:
Hello dannyboy, It’s about time you asked a real question… > Jerryboy nobody knows it all and you are even a bigger fool if you > believe you do.
You are right, but I’m satisfied with straight A’s. A+’s would be a gift from above. I’m not worthy of that, I guess. Perhaps it’s because of the company I’ve been keeping lately… > I would like to know how you do protection training, totally using > your methods you preach,
Start by figuring out the basic work in the manual, then you’ll be able to think about the advanced work in a different perspective. > Because according to everything you preach it would be impossible > to train a dog for protection work and be able to rely on him to do > so.
My dogs are extremely reliable. I’ve trained a great many dogs for working K-9 teams in high security installations and for riot control. And I’ve had over one hundred legitimate attacks to my own personal dog’s records. > I know this is going to be a tough one for you, but do the best you > can, or you can ignore it or dance around the question as usual. and > than insult me and everybody else for asking you a question, instead > of just answering it.
You know damn well that I respond civilly to any reasonable questions. You haven’t asked any reasonable questions till now… I collar train my dogs. We work the heeling pattern for a couple minutes, and come to a sit and pick up the collar and show it to the dog and say what’s that? The collar is fastened and the dog is told to watch. It takes four lessons to complete that part of the training. The collar work is done before any bite work whatsoever, it’s a safety measure.. I work my protection dogs in small groups, side by side on line, usually-6 dogs, so that they benefit from allelomimetic behavior, that is, observing their class mates. I often put an experienced dog in the middle position. The dog must always stay on watch before being sent, or he doesn’t get a chance to bite. I push them to the limit using a sit/stay/watch, or down/stay/watch, or stand/stay/watch, and the dogs quickly learn that once they are able to control themselves, they get a chance to chase and bite. That motivates the hell out of them. It’s a delicate balance between being totally in control, and totally out of control. I teach them to out before I teach them to bite, so I always get an instant out, and avoid making them sleeve happy. My agitators start working them at about thirty foot distance, and slowly work their way in close, moving laterally and angling 15 degrees forward as they work their way in on them, and backing up scared if anyone looks nervous or is about to break their stay command. When the dogs will stay and watch, we start getting the dog to flash at their hands and arms and feet. They are physically threatened, kicked at, swung at with clubs, shot at, but not ever physically touched. With a shy dog, we usually threaten the handler first, the handler acts scared, the dog wants his pal to be O.K., so they overcome their own fear to protect their terrified partner. My dogs foam at the mouth and their temp goes up to 106 degrees in two minutes, and often they’ll come down with a case of diarrhea after about ten minutes of work. That’s the time frame that I work with for each segment of training. First we turn them on and work each segment of the exercise at least four times in each segment. Collar on=watch. Agitate. Collar off=out. On/off, on/off, on/off, on/off. Then we turn them off for a make up session, to insure that the dog will be trustworthy when the class is over. The duty collar is released and dropped in front of the dog with the command out, and is picked up, held in front of the dog’s nose, and dropped again with the command out. The dog is then taken through the protection heeling pattern exercise in close proximity 3′ to the agitator till he accepts his presence without aggression, and then we sit him three feet in front of the agitator, cover his muzzle to protect the agitator, and tell the dog it’s friends, and make him give his paw. We observe his level of tension, and when the dog is comfortable, we test it out… As the dog is doing the makeup, the agitator quickly pulls his hand back and hisses. If the dog breaks to go after him, we do the heeling pattern routine again and repeat the make up till the dog is cool. Then we do poison proofing and argument school, where the dog is taught to understand an argument or conflict is happening, and is taught to automatically take his position and be prepared to attack without a command. When the agitator prepares to strike the handler, the dog is sent. They quickly learn that when someone raises their voice to my handlers, there’s problems coming, and we teach the dog to attack without command when a physical threat is perceived.. They are also taught when someone is intimidating the handler without making a big production out of it, and learn to come on duty according to situations as they present themselves. We train them to remain in the car without EVER sticking their head out the window. We train them to remain inside the car with the doors opened by the agitator and everything else he can do to provoke the dog to exit the car without a command. The dogs learn that as soon as the agitator sticks his hand inside the car, he gets to pull him inside and finish the job, but never to stick his nose out of the window, or where the window would have been, if the agitator were to have opened the door. The sessions are performed for four ten minute sessions, and two ten minute breaks. Once the dogs are fully collar trained and reliable, we teach them under what circumstances the collar is allowed to be violated. Then, you could throw the collar away, except for training class, because the dog will work on the voice command. The collar is only a safety measure to prevent accidents. Later it is only used as a reminder if the dog is going to be on or off duty for prolonged periods, the dog will occasionally shake his head to confirm which collar he’s on, so he’s sure he’s or off duty, and will act accordingly. As soon as we have developed a decent bite, we are ready to go into off lead attack work. We train off lead using the same exact distances that the on lead work was done, and we get them to only go six feet forward on attack before being called out, and that gives us three feet to pull of a sound distraction and praise, should the dog fail to quit on his first out command. As soon as we have him starting and stopping within the nine foot distance (six foot of lead, three foot of arm) off lead, then we can start getting fancy. > Dan H
Does that answer your question? 
DRAINING THE SWAMP, AND RELOCATING THE GATORS… "CUSTOM WILL RECONCILE PEOPLE TO ANY ATROCITY." G.B. Shaw. J>>> "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Leo Tolstoy Is it any wonder that the following sig file has generated more complaints to my personal email than any other controversial post I have made to date, bar none?: caveat If you have to do things to your dog to train him, that you would rather not have to do, then you shouldn’t be doing them. If you have a dog trainer that tells you to jerk your dog around, choke him, pinch his ears, or twist his toes, shock, shake, slap, scold, hit, or punish him in any manner, that corrections are appropriate, that the dog won’t think of you as the punisher, or that corrections are not harmful, or if they can’t train your dog to do what you want, look for a trainer that knows Howe. Sincerely, Jerry Howe, Wits’ End Dog Training http://www.doggydoright.com Nature, to be mastered, must be obeyed. -Francis Bacon- There are terrible people who, instead of solving a problem, bungle it and make it more difficult for all who come after. Who ever can’t hit the nail on the head should, please, not hit at all. -Nietzsche- The abilities to think, rationalize and solve problems are learned qualities. The Wits’ End Dog Training Method challenges the learning centers in the dogs brain. These centers, once challenged, develop and continue to grow exponentially, to make him smarter. The Wits’ End Dog Training method capitalizes on praising split seconds of canine thought, strategy, and timing, not mindless hours of forced repetition, constant corrections, and scolding. -Jerry Howe-
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