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Even in the communist nation of Canada, they couldn’t stop a lone gunmen from mass murder in Montreal a few days ago. Tighten the borders now, who knows what nutjob will pass through from Canada next?

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> Even in the communist nation of Canada, they couldn’t stop a lone > gunmen from mass murder in Montreal a few days ago. > Tighten the borders now, who knows what nutjob will pass through from > Canada next?

dude, have you been reading the American newspapers lately??? No I guess not. In the 14 deadliest mass shootings committed in wealthy nations during the past 35 years: 79% of the victims were shot with lawfully held firearms (185 of 233 victims) 86% of these mass shooting (12 of 14) were committed by lawful gun owners 29 Jul 1999 Atlanta, GA, USA 12 + 1  Legal guns, no licence required 20 Apr 1999   Littleton, CO, USA  13 + 2 Not legal guns 28 Apr 1996  Port Arthur, Australia 35 Not legal guns 13 Mar 1996  Dunblane, Scotland 17 + 1 Legal guns, pistol club member 16 Oct 1991 Killeen, TX, USA 23 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required 13 Nov 1990         Aramoana, New Zealand  13 + 1 Legal guns, licensed gun owner 18 Jun 1990      Jacksonville, FL, USA    9 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required 06 Dec 1989 Montreal, Canada  14 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required 19 Aug 1987  Hungerford, England  16 + 1 Legal guns, pistol club member 20 Aug 1986 Edmond, OK, USA  14 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required 18 Jul 1984  San Ysidro, CA, USA  21 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required 01 Aug 1966 Austin, TX, USA   16 + 1  Legal guns, no licence required

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> > Even in the communist nation of Canada, they couldn’t stop a lone > gunmen from mass murder in Montreal a few days ago. > Tighten the borders now, who knows what nutjob will pass through from > Canada next? > Hmmm, > What is this? a kettle calling a pot black? What happened in Conumbine > down there? Crazy nut case no one could predict or prevent. Cops > responded swiftly and put him away so what are you talking about? > Tighten the borders? Not for this one. > Tony > P.S. You call your most dependable neighbor/ally a communist?

Thank god for America. Where else would "WE" get all of our guns and Still a little lost about the Communist thing though. I always thought we were the terrorist playground country…  ;>)

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did courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Even in the communist nation of Canada, they couldn’t stop a lone > gunmen from mass murder in Montreal a few days ago. > Tighten the borders now, who knows what nutjob will pass through from > Canada next? >dude, have you been reading the American newspapers lately??? No I >guess not. >In the 14 deadliest mass shootings committed in wealthy nations during >the past 35 years: >79% of the victims were shot with lawfully held firearms (185 of 233 >victims) >86% of these mass shooting (12 of 14) were committed by lawful gun >owners >29 Jul 1999 Atlanta, GA, USA 12 + 1  Legal guns, no licence required >20 Apr 1999   Littleton, CO, USA  13 + 2 Not legal guns >28 Apr 1996  Port Arthur, Australia 35 Not legal guns >13 Mar 1996  Dunblane, Scotland 17 + 1 Legal guns, pistol club member >16 Oct 1991 Killeen, TX, USA 23 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required >13 Nov 1990         Aramoana, New Zealand  13 + 1 Legal guns, licensed >gun owner >18 Jun 1990      Jacksonville, FL, USA    9 + 1 Legal guns, no licence >required >06 Dec 1989 Montreal, Canada  14 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required >19 Aug 1987  Hungerford, England  16 + 1 Legal guns, pistol club member >20 Aug 1986 Edmond, OK, USA  14 + 1 Legal guns, no licence required >18 Jul 1984  San Ysidro, CA, USA  21 + 1 Legal guns, no licence >required >01 Aug 1966 Austin, TX, USA   16 + 1  Legal guns, no licence required

Not only that, the dude can’t fucking count.  If 1 dead victim at Dawson College is mass killing I guess he/she/its country’s excursion in Iraq is genocide which would make the US war criminals. — Ken Wilson

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courageously avow: > Even in the communist nation of Canada, they couldn’t stop a lone > gunmen from mass murder in Montreal a few days ago. > Tighten the borders now, who knows what nutjob will pass through from > Canada next? >Hmmm, >What is this? a kettle calling a pot black? What happened in Conumbine >down there? Crazy nut case no one could predict or prevent. Cops >responded swiftly and put him away so what are you talking about? >Tighten the borders? Not for this one. >Tony >P.S. You call your most dependable neighbor/ally a communist?

Don’t worry.  This nut job pops in and out using all sorts of aliases. Typical gutless wonder, can’t post a real e-mail connect and won’t go fight for the war he/she/it believes in.  I suspect he/she/its sister has bigger cajones and more testosterone than this floater. — Ken Wilson

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Canadian- Radial Engineering. They produce excellent guitarist gear, yes!

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Man, it’s not just Gordon Lightfoot from Canada that parted my hair as a player. Does anyone have a short (or long) list of other 6 stringers that hit the soul? Thanks! Marc

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Canada brings a wonderful pool of comedians, musicians and actors into the American soup. Nature bless her people. mvm

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Canadian Gov, like American Gov, is: *Gov.* The best of each of her people’s produce a wondrous mix of all that being human can positively bring to bear. Here’s to the GOOD. mvm

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avow: >Man, it’s not just Gordon Lightfoot from Canada that parted my hair as a >player. Does anyone have a short (or long) list of other 6 stringers >that hit the soul? Thanks! Marc

Great Canadian guitarists? Danny Gatton and Lenny Breau come to mind.  Unfortunately both are now deceased.  :-( — Ken Wilson

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> avow: > Man, it’s not just Gordon Lightfoot from Canada that parted my hair as a > player. Does anyone have a short (or long) list of other 6 stringers > that hit the soul? Thanks! Marc > Great Canadian guitarists? > Danny Gatton and Lenny Breau come to mind.  Unfortunately both are now > deceased.  :-(

Time invested working your own chops could displace time wasted whining about things you’ll never control, -like the going’s on in Washington D.C. mvm *This kindly ASSumes you’re even a musician of _any_ kind….

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> avow: > Man, it’s not just Gordon Lightfoot from Canada that parted my hair as a > player. Does anyone have a short (or long) list of other 6 stringers > that hit the soul? Thanks! Marc > Great Canadian guitarists? > Danny Gatton and Lenny Breau come to mind.  Unfortunately both are now > deceased.  :-(

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I purchased a treadmill motor and have attached it to my exercise bike. The plan is to attach it to a 12vdc battery and run a tv & vcr off off it. It is putting out 45 vdc approx 3 amps.  How do I go about hooking it up without wrecking anything ? Thanks in Advance, Rob

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> I purchased a treadmill motor and have attached it to my exercise bike. > The plan is to attach it to a 12vdc battery and run a tv & vcr off off it. > It is putting out 45 vdc approx 3 amps.  How do I go about hooking it up > without wrecking anything ? > Thanks in Advance, Rob

Get yourself a Dc/Dc 48/12 Volt Switching Converter that has a wide Input Dc Range 30-48 Vdc and has a regulated 13.6 Vdc output, and put it in between the Motor and the battery.  solves all your problems in one box. Bruce in alaska —

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Bruce has a good idea, but you might ave trouble locating the proper supply. You’ll need a good 5Amp blocking diode, switch (for safety) and maybe a variable power resistor or adjustable charge controller. THe last item is for adjusting the charge rate, if its too high its not going to be fun to peddle. And a switching controller may yeild annoying tugging on the peddles. From what I read on the  subject, 100 – 150 watts is about what a person in ‘good’ shape can pump out. Cheers – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I purchased a treadmill motor and have attached it to my exercise bike. > The plan is to attach it to a 12vdc battery and run a tv & vcr off off it. > It is putting out 45 vdc approx 3 amps.  How do I go about hooking it up > without wrecking anything ? > Thanks in Advance, Rob

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I’ve been using my daughter’s Hula Hoop for a little over a week now and my 2 hour PP’s are lower than they’ve been in a long time, aside from the days I shoveled snow.  I’ve been doing about 5 minutes after lunch and another 5 minutes after dinner.  I do have to watch out for hypos though.  That little bit of exercise is enough to cause one…at least for me. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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> I’ve been using my daughter’s Hula Hoop for a little over a week now and my > 2 hour PP’s are lower than they’ve been in a long time, aside from the days > I shoveled snow.  I’ve been doing about 5 minutes after lunch and another 5 > minutes after dinner.  I do have to watch out for hypos though.  That little > bit of exercise is enough to cause one…at least for me. > — > Type 2 > http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ > Julie Bove, posting from new account

Got any videos you can put online? — Chuck "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain it. It is true that you may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve been using my daughter’s Hula Hoop for a little over a week now and my > 2 hour PP’s are lower than they’ve been in a long time, aside from the days > I shoveled snow.  I’ve been doing about 5 minutes after lunch and another 5 > minutes after dinner.  I do have to watch out for hypos though.  That little > bit of exercise is enough to cause one…at least for me. > — > Type 2 > http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ > Julie Bove, posting from new account > Got any videos you can put online?

Sorry, no.  If I did, I don’t know if it would classify as a comedy or a horror film.  I’m sure nobody wants to see me repeatedly picking up the hoop.  *L*  But I did manage to get it to go around a whole 17 times before it dropped.  I can’t complain though.  It is lowering the BG quicker than anything else I know of in such a short period of time. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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> I’ve been using my daughter’s Hula Hoop for a little over a week now and my > 2 hour PP’s are lower than they’ve been in a long time, aside from the days > I shoveled snow.  I’ve been doing about 5 minutes after lunch and another 5 > minutes after dinner.  I do have to watch out for hypos though.  That little > bit of exercise is enough to cause one…at least for me.

That could be rather amusing to watch in a restaurant.  ;-)

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10 minutes on my exercise bike after breakfest and lunch knocks by BG down 20 points. — Posted via Active Low-Carber Forums, for Low-Carb & Atkins Diet Support http://forum.lowcarber.org  &  http://www.lowcarb.ca

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I remember entering a Hula Hoop contest, sometime around 1960. Did not win.

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> > I’ve been using my daughter’s Hula Hoop for a little over a week now and my > 2 hour PP’s are lower than they’ve been in a long time, aside from the days > I shoveled snow.  I’ve been doing about 5 minutes after lunch and another 5 > minutes after dinner.  I do have to watch out for hypos though.  That little > bit of exercise is enough to cause one…at least for me. > That could be rather amusing to watch in a restaurant.  ;-)

No, no!  I only do it at home.  *L* — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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> 10 minutes on my exercise bike after breakfest and lunch knocks by BG > down 20 points.

I can’t do an exercise bike.  Not enough padding on my rear end and every time I try, I get all bruised up.  I’ve even tried one of those special split seats with sheepskin padding.  That helps a bit, but it still bruises me up. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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> I remember entering a Hula Hoop contest, sometime around 1960. Did not win. >

I remember those.  I wouldn’t win either.  I wasn’t even good at it when I was a kid.  But it’s still good exercise! — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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Julie I didnt even know they still made them,  I havent seen one since the fifties when I was a champ,  I wish I could do it, but my back is out so I dont think it is an exercise for me,  But for whomever can do, it is great fun and great exercise,  I wonder if I could go even one revolution,. LOL Loretta — In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism.

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I think they’re "back", like a lot of other things. (Platform shoes, anyone?) That’s why we need BIG attics, so we can save these things for the "next time around"! bj

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Julie I didnt even know they still made them,  I havent seen one since > the fifties when I was a champ,

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I’ve been using my daughter’s Hula Hoop for a little over a week now and > my > > 2 hour PP’s are lower than they’ve been in a long time, aside from the > days > > I shoveled snow.  I’ve been doing about 5 minutes after lunch and > another 5 > > minutes after dinner.  I do have to watch out for hypos though.  That > little > > bit of exercise is enough to cause one…at least for me. > > — > > Type 2 > > http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ > > Julie Bove, posting from new account > Got any videos you can put online? > Sorry, no.  If I did, I don’t know if it would classify as a comedy or a > horror film.  I’m sure nobody wants to see me repeatedly picking up the > hoop.  *L*  But I did manage to get it to go around a whole 17 times before > it dropped.  I can’t complain though.  It is lowering the BG quicker than > anything else I know of in such a short period of time. > — > Type 2 > http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ > Julie Bove, posting from new account

LOL! Remember practice makes perfect – or close to it anyway. Just think. You could put out your own exercise video. Call it something like. "Exercise With What is in the House; From a Beginner’s Point of View." Sell it on Ebay and you’ll make a fortune. — Chuck "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain it. It is true that you may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> > I’ve been using my daughter’s Hula Hoop for a little over a week now and > my > > 2 hour PP’s are lower than they’ve been in a long time, aside from the > days > > I shoveled snow.  I’ve been doing about 5 minutes after lunch and > another 5 > > minutes after dinner.  I do have to watch out for hypos though.  That > little > > bit of exercise is enough to cause one…at least for me. > That could be rather amusing to watch in a restaurant.  ;-) > No, no!  I only do it at home.  *L* > — > Type 2 > http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ > Julie Bove, posting from new account

Hey, why not combine it with kariokee! A whole new fad! — Chuck "If you once forfeit the confidence of your fellow citizens, you can never regain it. It is true that you may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time." Abraham Lincoln

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> Julie I didnt even know they still made them,  I havent seen one since > the fifties when I was a champ,  I wish I could do it, but my back is > out so I dont think it is an exercise for me,  But for whomever can do, > it is great fun and great exercise,  I wonder if I could go even one > revolution,. LOL

Despite all my other medical problems, I do have a good back.  Don’t know why since bad backs run rampant in my family.  My knees are feeling it a bit though.  As for the making of Hula Hoops, I don’t think they ever stopped…although I have seen a variety of knock-offs.  I remember them becoming unpopular after my Grandpa really stocked up on them in his store. Didn’t think he’d ever get rid of them all! — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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> Hey, why not combine it with kariokee! > A whole new fad!

Hmmm…  My daughter has a Karaoke machine too.  I’ll have to think about that one.  Hehe! — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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> I think they’re "back", like a lot of other things. (Platform shoes, > anyone?) > That’s why we need BIG attics, so we can save these things for the "next > time around"!

The latest thing is a hoop that breaks down into pieces.  It’s portable for travel.  I’ve seen weighted hoops (different weights for different body weights) and some that have an electronic device to track your progress. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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> LOL! > Remember practice makes perfect – or close to it anyway. > Just think. You could put out your own exercise video. Call it something like. > "Exercise With What is in the House; From a Beginner’s Point of View." > Sell it on Ebay and you’ll make a fortune.

I had actually been thinking of that.  I have a musician friend who did a soundtrack for an aerobic video in the ’80s.  I have done some choreographed stretches/dance moves and yoga poses that I thought might make for a decent exercise routine for someone with medical conditions similar to mine.  But now that I am feeling a little more spry, I’m able to do more.  Last year at this time I wouldn’t have been able to pick the hoop up from the floor, let alone think of twirling it. — Type 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Julie Bove, posting from new account

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I’ve had a pain in my lower back for about a month.  It’s below my waist on the right hand side.  The pain is very localized and fairly constant, although it seems to feel best in the morning, getting worse as the day progresses. I wondered if there were exercises that I could do to help myself. I’m away from home at the moment and won’t be able to see my doctor for at least another three weeks. I do too much sitting on hard chairs.  I know that can’t be helping. I do a lot of swimming, some walking and ride an exercise bike. Is ice or heat best for back pain? Thanks. Jane

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Jane, Scrap the exercise bike for at least a while, do more walking and swimming instead. Toe touches holding for 30 to 60 senconds (don’t bend over, sit in a chair, touch your toes and stand to stretch and sit back in the chair when complete, (cease and desist if painful). Strengthen your upper body and abdominal muscles, use them consciously instead of your back. Walk (don’t run) and stand with your knees always slightly bent and your abdominals tightened, even if you think it looks nerdy or it is uncomfortable at first. Use a pillow for lumbar support in the chair, always, always minding your posture, don’t do quick twists in the chair. Use ice to kill pain, moist heat too if you are experiencing spasms, but from the description that is unlikely. OTC Ibuprofen or Aleve (for inflammation) if your stomach can take it are good things, don’t quit taking them because it stops hurting, keep taking them sticking to the label unless your MD tells you different when you see him. See a Doctor ASAP, don’t wait the three weeks if you can avoid it. Hang in there, keep the faith, whatever yours is and remember one day at a time is all anyone can do. Best Regards, An unknown Joe

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I’ve had a pain in my lower back for about a month.  It’s below my > waist on the right hand side.  The pain is very localized and fairly > constant, although it seems to feel best in the morning, getting worse > as the day progresses. > I wondered if there were exercises that I could do to help myself. > I’m away from home at the moment and won’t be able to see my doctor > for at least another three weeks. > I do too much sitting on hard chairs.  I know that can’t be helping. > I do a lot of swimming, some walking and ride an exercise bike. > Is ice or heat best for back pain? > Thanks. > Jane

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Have you been tested for Hepatitis C?  The pain you are describing is often a symptom of liver inflamation, the liver itself has no feeling, but it can push on other organs, thus causing the right side, below the waist pain. HCV is epidemic in the US, but most people who have it do not know it.

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Thanks, but I’ve read about hepatitis C.  Apparently the pain is usually just below the rib cage on the right side.  My pain is quite far down – mid buttock. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Have you been tested for Hepatitis C?  The pain you are describing is often a > symptom of liver inflamation, the liver itself has no feeling, but it can push > on other organs, thus causing the right side, below the waist pain. > HCV is epidemic in the US, but most people who have it do not know it.

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> OK, Binnie, so you just get on the treadmill and walk a little > each day, adding about 2 minutes per day.

Hmmm, had my hopes up here for a moment. Thought you said to start out at 2 minutes per day and add 2 mins per day after that.  I guess the original walk needs to be a bit more than 2 minutes? > Then you start speeding up a bit, making it a brisk pace. > Then you start running for a quarter lap at a time, then walk to > catch the breath, then run again.

Do you actually RUN on a treadmill?  Or do you switch to the sidewalk for the running?   > Slowly build it up. Keep a log, and before long, you’ll be > running again. I don’t recommend jumping hurdles, however. :^)

No, I can just imagine how my back would react if I jumped anywhere! > Tom > Smoke Free for: > Two months, three weeks, one day, 13 hours, 15 minutes and 6 > seconds. > That’s 2038 cigarettes not smoked, saving $341.50. > Life saved: 1 week, 1 hour, 50 minutes. > PS – just don’t tell the management you have a horse. I mean, > people have cats and they are just tiny little horses, aren’t > they?

LOLOLOLOL!!!  Yeah, with sharper little teeth & hooves. Thanks for the encouragement, Tom.  I really do need to get up and MOVE myself more! I would surely feel better physically (and mentally) if I did something. —    BinnieBee (Who has never exercised in her life) Oops!  Wrong!  I did when I was pregnant.  But that was ……  eons ago. >        %% >      (—-) >     ( >__< ) >     ^^ ~~ ^^ >     ~f3as3~

Four months, three weeks, three days, 20 hours, 29 minutes and 37 seconds. 4345 cigarettes not smoked, saving $717.02. Life saved: 2 weeks, 1 day, 2 hours, 5 minutes. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > | > > | > first time Id been to a gym in years, and I found it great, > suppressed my > | > appetite, took my mind off the cigs and sweated away all the > nicotine.  Came out > | > feeling great !!! > | > > | > > | > — > | > 1w 2d 07:15 smell free, 141 cancer sticks not smoked,

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Got up this morning at 7:00 AM …  not bad for someone on vacation, eh? Breakfast was: Boiled egg Two thin slices canadian bacon One slice rye toast w/ jam One-half grapefruit Six ounces of V-8 juice One mug jasmine tea Did assorted morning stuff for a bit, then worked out for about 30 minutes:  lower body aerobics and upper body dumbells at a fairly intense level (about a 7  on the "grunt" index . Bg levels two hours after breakfast, about 5 minutes post exercise:  76. Richard (T2, dx March, 2001, Controlling with diet, exercise and cussed orneriness)

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Wow that was great ! Breakfast was good. I can’t exercise like that but still trying to walk more. Helps though. Every little bit. Mind if I print your breakfast up as a sample one for myself? If so thanks in advance —                          *Diana* *Do not wrong or hate your neighbor; for it is not he that you wrong; you wrong yourself*

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Got up this morning at 7:00 AM …  not bad for someone on vacation, eh? > Breakfast was: > Boiled egg > Two thin slices canadian bacon > One slice rye toast w/ jam > One-half grapefruit > Six ounces of V-8 juice > One mug jasmine tea > Did assorted morning stuff for a bit, then worked out for about 30 > minutes:  lower body aerobics and upper body dumbells at a fairly > intense level (about a 7  on the "grunt" index . > Bg levels two hours after breakfast, about 5 minutes post exercise:  76. > Richard > (T2, dx March, 2001, Controlling with diet, exercise and cussed > orneriness)

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Had lunch at 12:00–it was: Two pieces of Wasa rye cracker heaped with avocado One apple Two ounces of cheese One-fourth cup of sugarless fat free pudding, with a handful of peanuts on it Waited one-half hour and jogged and walked about two miles–in a little less than 30 minutes. Tested bg at 2:00 PM … 1.5 hours post lunch, and it was 87. If I had my act together I would also test pre-prandial bg levels. Mebbe tomorrow! Richard – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Got up this morning at 7:00 AM …  not bad for someone on vacation, eh? > Breakfast was: > Boiled egg > Two thin slices canadian bacon > One slice rye toast w/ jam > One-half grapefruit > Six ounces of V-8 juice > One mug jasmine tea > Did assorted morning stuff for a bit, then worked out for about 30 > minutes:  lower body aerobics and upper body dumbells at a fairly > intense level (about a 7  on the "grunt" index . > Bg levels two hours after breakfast, about 5 minutes post exercise:  76. > Richard > (T2, dx March, 2001, Controlling with diet, exercise and cussed > orneriness)

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Richard you are fantastic.  I wish more would post sample menu’s and their readings afterward. Thanks —                          *Diana* *Do not wrong or hate your neighbor; for it is not he that you wrong; you wrong yourself*

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Had lunch at 12:00–it was: > Two pieces of Wasa rye cracker heaped with avocado > One apple > Two ounces of cheese > One-fourth cup of sugarless fat free pudding, with a handful of peanuts > on it > Waited one-half hour and jogged and walked about two miles–in a little > less than 30 minutes. > Tested bg at 2:00 PM … 1.5 hours post lunch, and it was 87. > If I had my act together I would also test pre-prandial bg levels. > Mebbe tomorrow! > Richard > Got up this morning at 7:00 AM …  not bad for someone on vacation, eh? > Breakfast was: > Boiled egg > Two thin slices canadian bacon > One slice rye toast w/ jam > One-half grapefruit > Six ounces of V-8 juice > One mug jasmine tea > Did assorted morning stuff for a bit, then worked out for about 30 > minutes:  lower body aerobics and upper body dumbells at a fairly > intense level (about a 7  on the "grunt" index . > Bg levels two hours after breakfast, about 5 minutes post exercise:  76. > Richard > (T2, dx March, 2001, Controlling with diet, exercise and cussed > orneriness)

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> Got up this morning at 7:00 AM …  not bad for someone on vacation, eh?

Eww, gross!  ;-) > Did assorted morning stuff for a bit, then worked out for about 30 > minutes:  lower body aerobics and upper body dumbells at a fairly > intense level (about a 7  on the "grunt" index .

Well, I spent half an hour this morning scraping off my car & shovelling snow off my driveway.  I was still puffing & panting at work a half hour after that!  ;-) And, since the kidlet is bugging me to let her play her new computer game, I guess I’ll go ride my bike for a while. > Bg levels two hours after breakfast, about 5 minutes post exercise:  76.

Kewl.  Careful you don’t end up *too* low! — Kelly T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( ICQ #85063563 My idea of housework is to sweep the room with a glance. To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com

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> Well, I spent half an hour this morning scraping off my car & shovelling > snow off my driveway.  I was still puffing & panting at work a half hour > after that!  ;-) > And, since the kidlet is bugging me to let her play her new computer game, I > guess I’ll go ride my bike for a while.

Managed 21 minutes steady on the exercise bike, then had the luxury of putting my daughter to bed! Unfortunately, I didn’t get results like Richard did.  I was 5.3 (95) before dinner, did the exercise at the 1 hour mark, and was still 6.9 (124) at 2h PP.  *sigh*  I am usually around 7.5 (135) at 2hPP without any exercise. Dunno if that torture was worth a half point. — Kelly T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( ICQ #85063563 I used to work in an orange juice factory, until I got canned. To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com — Kelly T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( ICQ #85063563 The only time the world beats a path to your door is when you’re in the bathroom. To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com

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Suggestion #2     5 # forks??? Don W

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You’ve taken the words right out of my mouth – I’ve even had food leap off > the supermarket shelf right into my basket, and I haven’t even noticed until > I got home, and it unwrapped itself straight onto my dinner plate. > My worst enemy is my husband, who sabotages every diet I try to go on. And > quite truthfully, he satotaged my exercise bike in October. Took it to > pieces and said he couldn’t put it together again (no, his name is not > Humpty Dumpty!!) so I had to buy a new bike and put barbed wire around it!! > Good try Don! > Did you get my e-mail, Ichy? > Janet > That’s an old wife’s tale Don!  Food has this magical property that most > people do not understand.  Move away from the table and it jumps right > into > your mouth all by itself, especially chocolate!  OH NO!!!, I should not > have > said that "C" word!   Shit, I just gained a pound. > — > Ichy > http://www.arthritisinsight.com/community/folding/ > ——- > >I understand the best exercise for losing weight is the "Pushing Away" > >exercise.  Place the thumbs under the table rim and the fingers on top, > >gently push the chair away from the table and the reach of all food. > >Hope this helps….  : ) > >Don W

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I sent them to you. Good luck. Duckie >Okay — I’ve obviously got no clue how to do that chart for the web > Duckie, > Send it to me and I’ll put it into html for ya. > ~KJ > Akron, Ohio > http://arthritisinsight.com > Knowledge is power…support is essential. > http://www.arthritisinsight.com/help/donationdrive/index.html > AI 2001 Holiday Donation Drive

– Remove the duck to email me privately  (.)> A duck’s quack does echo, and every one knows why.

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OK, just so we are straight about this… are you telling me that these are NOT all supposed to come out to the same number?? J. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Here are the ones I took: > Chest [above the bust under the armpits] > Bust [around the fullest part] > Waist > Abdomen [for me 3" below the waist] > Hip [around the fullest part]  funny this used to be 7" down and now is > 10" > Thigh [around the fullest part] > Knee > Calf

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Yes Janet, I know the feeling. Some silly old bloke keeps looking at me in shaving mirror. — Old Don Cut out ‘toutout-’ when replying

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Dieting tip? A man knows that he is too fat when he looks down in the shower and can’t see his best friend. — Old Don Cut out ‘toutout-’ when replying

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You’ve taken the words right out of my mouth – I’ve even had food leap off the supermarket shelf right into my basket, and I haven’t even noticed until I got home, and it unwrapped itself straight onto my dinner plate. My worst enemy is my husband, who sabotages every diet I try to go on. And quite truthfully, he satotaged my exercise bike in October. Took it to pieces and said he couldn’t put it together again (no, his name is not Humpty Dumpty!!) so I had to buy a new bike and put barbed wire around it!! Good try Don! Did you get my e-mail, Ichy? Janet

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> That’s an old wife’s tale Don!  Food has this magical property that most > people do not understand.  Move away from the table and it jumps right into > your mouth all by itself, especially chocolate!  OH NO!!!, I should not have > said that "C" word!   Shit, I just gained a pound. > — > Ichy > http://www.arthritisinsight.com/community/folding/ > ——- >I understand the best exercise for losing weight is the "Pushing Away" >exercise.  Place the thumbs under the table rim and the fingers on top, >gently push the chair away from the table and the reach of all food. >Hope this helps….  : ) >Don W

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You’re a braver woman than I am Gunga Din – I don’t even want to look in the mirror, let alone apply a freezing cold tape measure to my cellulite. I can’t get used to this strange woman who inhabits my bedroom. Every time I get to look in the mirror (fully clothed, I hasten to add!) she’s got there before me and looks so obscenely wobbly and floppy. And why is it that my clothes are all shrinking in the wash? I’m sure I’m using the proper sort of OK chappesses, I think we should keep this out of UPSA now, or Andy and AF will be chastising us. (ooh, yes please!!!!!!) Feel free to e-mail me direct

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Okay, I measured myself today. gad > That was painful — mentally speaking. Sometimes a tape measure will > tell you more than the scales as inches come off but not the weight. > Inches are a good thing and keep you motivated when little else does. > Here are the ones I took: > Chest [above the bust under the armpits] > Bust [around the fullest part] > Waist > Abdomen [for me 3" below the waist] > Hip [around the fullest part]  funny this used to be 7" down and now is > 10" > Thigh [around the fullest part] > Knee > Calf > I will make this into a little chart in Word and send it along to Janet. > She can include it in on of her next emails.  No, better yet I will put > it on my web site and then you can just print out the page. How’s that. > Duckie > — > Remove the duck to email me privately  (.)> > A duck’s quack does echo, and every one knows why.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> You’re a braver woman than I am Gunga Din – I don’t even want to look in the > mirror, let alone apply a freezing cold tape measure to my cellulite. > I can’t get used to this strange woman who inhabits my bedroom. Every time I > get to look in the mirror (fully clothed, I hasten to add!) she’s got there > before me and looks so obscenely wobbly and floppy. And why is it that my > clothes are all shrinking in the wash? I’m sure I’m using the proper sort of > OK chappesses, I think we should keep this out of UPSA now, or Andy and AF > will be chastising us. (ooh, yes please!!!!!!) > Feel free to e-mail me direct

You never know Janet – we might have some roly-poly men here too! Oh, and this strange woman – I think she’s visiting my house too. Jayne

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>Okay — I’ve obviously got no clue how to do that chart for the web

Duckie, Send it to me and I’ll put it into html for ya. ~KJ Akron, Ohio http://arthritisinsight.com Knowledge is power…support is essential. http://www.arthritisinsight.com/help/donationdrive/index.html AI 2001 Holiday Donation Drive

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That’s an old wife’s tale Don!  Food has this magical property that most people do not understand.  Move away from the table and it jumps right into your mouth all by itself, especially chocolate!  OH NO!!!, I should not have said that "C" word!   Shit, I just gained a pound. — Ichy http://www.arthritisinsight.com/community/folding/ ——-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->I understand the best exercise for losing weight is the "Pushing Away" >exercise.  Place the thumbs under the table rim and the fingers on top, >gently push the chair away from the table and the reach of all food. >Hope this helps….  : ) >Don W

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Okay — I’ve obviously got no clue how to do that chart for the web. I have tried a couple of different ways — all oddly bad. Even tried using one of those ‘let me help you with html’ files. Importing an object works great but shows the page in solid black when you look at it on the web. Hard to read. Tried retyping and it won’t show the boxes so I give up. They are on the way to Janet. Duckie — Remove the duck to email me privately  (.)> A duck’s quack does echo, and every one knows why. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ……. > I will make this into a little chart in Word and send it along to Janet. > She can include it in on of her next emails.  No, better yet I will put > it on my web site and then you can just print out the page. How’s that. > Duckie > — > Remove the duck to email me privately  (.)> > A duck’s quack does echo, and every one knows why.

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I understand the best exercise for losing weight is the "Pushing Away" exercise.  Place the thumbs under the table rim and the fingers on top, gently push the chair away from the table and the reach of all food. Hope this helps….  : ) Don W

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Okay, I measured myself today. gad > That was painful — mentally speaking. Sometimes a tape measure will > tell you more than the scales as inches come off but not the weight. > Inches are a good thing and keep you motivated when little else does. > Here are the ones I took: > Chest [above the bust under the armpits] > Bust [around the fullest part] > Waist > Abdomen [for me 3" below the waist] > Hip [around the fullest part]  funny this used to be 7" down and now is > 10" > Thigh [around the fullest part] > Knee > Calf > I will make this into a little chart in Word and send it along to Janet. > She can include it in on of her next emails.  No, better yet I will put > it on my web site and then you can just print out the page. How’s that. > Duckie > — > Remove the duck to email me privately  (.)> > A duck’s quack does echo, and every one knows why.

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Okay, I measured myself today. gad That was painful — mentally speaking. Sometimes a tape measure will tell you more than the scales as inches come off but not the weight. Inches are a good thing and keep you motivated when little else does. Here are the ones I took: Chest [above the bust under the armpits] Bust [around the fullest part] Waist Abdomen [for me 3" below the waist] Hip [around the fullest part]  funny this used to be 7" down and now is 10" Thigh [around the fullest part] Knee Calf I will make this into a little chart in Word and send it along to Janet. She can include it in on of her next emails.  No, better yet I will put it on my web site and then you can just print out the page. How’s that. Duckie — Remove the duck to email me privately  (.)> A duck’s quack does echo, and every one knows why.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Okay, so where is the exercise thread???  I actually (finally!) have >something to post to it, and nobody else has???  ;-) >So, here I am in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and today’s temp was a balmy -5 >C (~25 F) with wind chill factor of -15 C (about 5 F).  Winds are in the 35 >kph (20 mph) range, with gusts up to 50 kph (30 mph). >So what do I decide to do?  Just before 5pm (as what little sun we had is >going down), kidlet & I bundle up & head out for a walk.  Our street is a >big circle (one of these days, I’ll measure it with the car, but I’d guess >it to be probably 5kms (3 miles) around.  The first part is, of course, >uphill.  We hadn’t gotten up to the first curve yet (about a km) when Lynne >starts asking "when can we stop for a little break?"  Ugh.  And starts >whining that her legs are freezing.  *sigh* >When we get to her school, at about the half way point, kidlet is whining >for a break.  You think I’m going to sit in the snow and freeze my butt off? >I don’t think so!   So, instead of continuing the rest of the way around >the circle, we decide to cut through the school yard and follow the >school-home route, cutting off maybe a half a km or so. >Net result?  22 minutes and 34 seconds of sustained walking, and a BIG cup >of tea (for me) and hot chocolate (for kid) when we get home. >Then, get this — making dinner, I do my premeal test —  22.9 mmol/L (412 >mg/dl) !!!!  Say what?!?!?!  Granted I had 2 freshly baked chocolate chip >cookies about half hour before we went out, but still!!!  So, washed my >hands and tested again — 7.1 (128).  Whew!  Still not great, but really >good for 1h PP after 2 cookies.  Thought I had killed myself with that walk! ><vbg> >Not too sure when (if?) I’ll be doing that again, while dragging kidlet, >before summer arrives.  Might have to do up & down the stairs all day >instead. (blech!) >– >Kelly

  Sorry for the last post (an empty). . .posting during a low is risky!  See Tiger Lily’s post for an artful ". . . . .sigh".   The "exercise thread" again shamed me into a quickie three miles  on the exercise bike after dinner last night.    2 hr PP = 69 mg/dL.     Ain’t T1 grand! Regards  Old Al

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Okay, so where is the exercise thread???  I actually (finally!) have >something to post to it, and nobody else has???  ;-) >So, here I am in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and today’s temp was a balmy -5 >C (~25 F) with wind chill factor of -15 C (about 5 F).  Winds are in the 35 >kph (20 mph) range, with gusts up to 50 kph (30 mph). >So what do I decide to do?  Just before 5pm (as what little sun we had is >going down), kidlet & I bundle up & head out for a walk.  Our street is a >big circle (one of these days, I’ll measure it with the car, but I’d guess >it to be probably 5kms (3 miles) around.  The first part is, of course, >uphill.  We hadn’t gotten up to the first curve yet (about a km) when Lynne >starts asking "when can we stop for a little break?"  Ugh.  And starts >whining that her legs are freezing.  *sigh* >When we get to her school, at about the half way point, kidlet is whining >for a break.  You think I’m going to sit in the snow and freeze my butt off? >I don’t think so!   So, instead of continuing the rest of the way around >the circle, we decide to cut through the school yard and follow the >school-home route, cutting off maybe a half a km or so. >Net result?  22 minutes and 34 seconds of sustained walking, and a BIG cup >of tea (for me) and hot chocolate (for kid) when we get home. >Then, get this — making dinner, I do my premeal test —  22.9 mmol/L (412 >mg/dl) !!!!  Say what?!?!?!  Granted I had 2 freshly baked chocolate chip >cookies about half hour before we went out, but still!!!  So, washed my >hands and tested again — 7.1 (128).  Whew!  Still not great, but really >good for 1h PP after 2 cookies.  Thought I had killed myself with that walk! ><vbg> >Not too sure when (if?) I’ll be doing that again, while dragging kidlet, >before summer arrives.  Might have to do up & down the stairs all day >instead. (blech!) >– >Kelly >T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, >Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( >ICQ #85063563 >Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your groin unprotected. >To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com

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Yay Kelly!  Good on ya!  I stayed in today and worked out with the weights … because it is raining for the third straight day and I figured I was gonna start sprouting mold if I went out in it any more. R. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Okay, so where is the exercise thread???  I actually (finally!) have > something to post to it, and nobody else has???  ;-) > So, here I am in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and today’s temp was a balmy -5 > C (~25 F) with wind chill factor of -15 C (about 5 F).  Winds are in the 35 > kph (20 mph) range, with gusts up to 50 kph (30 mph). > So what do I decide to do?  Just before 5pm (as what little sun we had is > going down), kidlet & I bundle up & head out for a walk.  Our street is a > big circle (one of these days, I’ll measure it with the car, but I’d guess > it to be probably 5kms (3 miles) around.  The first part is, of course, > uphill.  We hadn’t gotten up to the first curve yet (about a km) when Lynne > starts asking "when can we stop for a little break?"  Ugh.  And starts > whining that her legs are freezing.  *sigh* > When we get to her school, at about the half way point, kidlet is whining > for a break.  You think I’m going to sit in the snow and freeze my butt off? > I don’t think so!   So, instead of continuing the rest of the way around > the circle, we decide to cut through the school yard and follow the > school-home route, cutting off maybe a half a km or so. > Net result?  22 minutes and 34 seconds of sustained walking, and a BIG cup > of tea (for me) and hot chocolate (for kid) when we get home. > Then, get this — making dinner, I do my premeal test —  22.9 mmol/L (412 > mg/dl) !!!!  Say what?!?!?!  Granted I had 2 freshly baked chocolate chip > cookies about half hour before we went out, but still!!!  So, washed my > hands and tested again — 7.1 (128).  Whew!  Still not great, but really > good for 1h PP after 2 cookies.  Thought I had killed myself with that walk! > <vbg> > Not too sure when (if?) I’ll be doing that again, while dragging kidlet, > before summer arrives.  Might have to do up & down the stairs all day > instead. (blech!) > — > Kelly > T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, > Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( > ICQ #85063563 > Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your groin unprotected. > To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com

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damn motivator.. LOL I’ll walk my yard 5x (1x = 2acres) — RK [T1 that was smarter then her previous Doctors!][dx'd 5/00][Lantus Lover w/Novolog] http://www.zerolimit.net/files/zl-mirc.exe (#diabeticnet chatroom software)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Okay, so where is the exercise thread???  I actually (finally!) have > something to post to it, and nobody else has???  ;-) > So, here I am in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and today’s temp was a balmy -5 > C (~25 F) with wind chill factor of -15 C (about 5 F).  Winds are in the 35 > kph (20 mph) range, with gusts up to 50 kph (30 mph). > So what do I decide to do?  Just before 5pm (as what little sun we had is > going down), kidlet & I bundle up & head out for a walk.  Our street is a > big circle (one of these days, I’ll measure it with the car, but I’d guess > it to be probably 5kms (3 miles) around.  The first part is, of course, > uphill.  We hadn’t gotten up to the first curve yet (about a km) when Lynne > starts asking "when can we stop for a little break?"  Ugh.  And starts > whining that her legs are freezing.  *sigh* > When we get to her school, at about the half way point, kidlet is whining > for a break.  You think I’m going to sit in the snow and freeze my butt off? > I don’t think so!   So, instead of continuing the rest of the way around > the circle, we decide to cut through the school yard and follow the > school-home route, cutting off maybe a half a km or so. > Net result?  22 minutes and 34 seconds of sustained walking, and a BIG cup > of tea (for me) and hot chocolate (for kid) when we get home. > Then, get this — making dinner, I do my premeal test —  22.9 mmol/L (412 > mg/dl) !!!!  Say what?!?!?!  Granted I had 2 freshly baked chocolate chip > cookies about half hour before we went out, but still!!!  So, washed my > hands and tested again — 7.1 (128).  Whew!  Still not great, but really > good for 1h PP after 2 cookies.  Thought I had killed myself with that walk! > <vbg> > Not too sure when (if?) I’ll be doing that again, while dragging kidlet, > before summer arrives.  Might have to do up & down the stairs all day > instead. (blech!) > — > Kelly > T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, > Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( > ICQ #85063563 > Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your groin unprotected. > To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com

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congratulations, Kelly…. may this be the start of many more ! — k t1 14 yr – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Okay, so where is the exercise thread???  I actually (finally!) have >something to post to it, and nobody else has???  ;-) >So, here I am in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and today’s temp was a balmy -5 >C (~25 F) with wind chill factor of -15 C (about 5 F).  Winds are in the 35 >kph (20 mph) range, with gusts up to 50 kph (30 mph). >So what do I decide to do?  Just before 5pm (as what little sun we had is >going down), kidlet & I bundle up & head out for a walk.  Our street is a >big circle (one of these days, I’ll measure it with the car, but I’d guess >it to be probably 5kms (3 miles) around.  The first part is, of course, >uphill.  We hadn’t gotten up to the first curve yet (about a km) when Lynne >starts asking "when can we stop for a little break?"  Ugh.  And starts >whining that her legs are freezing.  *sigh* >When we get to her school, at about the half way point, kidlet is whining >for a break.  You think I’m going to sit in the snow and freeze my butt off? >I don’t think so!   So, instead of continuing the rest of the way around >the circle, we decide to cut through the school yard and follow the >school-home route, cutting off maybe a half a km or so. >Net result?  22 minutes and 34 seconds of sustained walking, and a BIG cup >of tea (for me) and hot chocolate (for kid) when we get home. >Then, get this — making dinner, I do my premeal test —  22.9 mmol/L (412 >mg/dl) !!!!  Say what?!?!?!  Granted I had 2 freshly baked chocolate chip >cookies about half hour before we went out, but still!!!  So, washed my >hands and tested again — 7.1 (128).  Whew!  Still not great, but really >good for 1h PP after 2 cookies.  Thought I had killed myself with that walk! ><vbg> >Not too sure when (if?) I’ll be doing that again, while dragging kidlet, >before summer arrives.  Might have to do up & down the stairs all day >instead. (blech!) >– >Kelly >T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, >Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( >ICQ #85063563 >Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your groin unprotected. >To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com

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Okay, so where is the exercise thread???  I actually (finally!) have something to post to it, and nobody else has???  ;-) So, here I am in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada, and today’s temp was a balmy -5 C (~25 F) with wind chill factor of -15 C (about 5 F).  Winds are in the 35 kph (20 mph) range, with gusts up to 50 kph (30 mph). So what do I decide to do?  Just before 5pm (as what little sun we had is going down), kidlet & I bundle up & head out for a walk.  Our street is a big circle (one of these days, I’ll measure it with the car, but I’d guess it to be probably 5kms (3 miles) around.  The first part is, of course, uphill.  We hadn’t gotten up to the first curve yet (about a km) when Lynne starts asking "when can we stop for a little break?"  Ugh.  And starts whining that her legs are freezing.  *sigh* When we get to her school, at about the half way point, kidlet is whining for a break.  You think I’m going to sit in the snow and freeze my butt off? I don’t think so!   So, instead of continuing the rest of the way around the circle, we decide to cut through the school yard and follow the school-home route, cutting off maybe a half a km or so. Net result?  22 minutes and 34 seconds of sustained walking, and a BIG cup of tea (for me) and hot chocolate (for kid) when we get home. Then, get this — making dinner, I do my premeal test —  22.9 mmol/L (412 mg/dl) !!!!  Say what?!?!?!  Granted I had 2 freshly baked chocolate chip cookies about half hour before we went out, but still!!!  So, washed my hands and tested again — 7.1 (128).  Whew!  Still not great, but really good for 1h PP after 2 cookies.  Thought I had killed myself with that walk! <vbg> Not too sure when (if?) I’ll be doing that again, while dragging kidlet, before summer arrives.  Might have to do up & down the stairs all day instead. (blech!) — Kelly T2, daily regime: 25u NPH at bedtime, varying H with dinner, Avandia 4mg 2x, Altace 2.5mg, Wellbutrin 150mg 2x, now added 10mg Liptor  :-( ICQ #85063563 Never raise your hands to your kids.  It leaves your groin unprotected. To reply, send to mynick (at) quickclic (dot) com

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>You’re showing your age now, but I still like you! >Janet

My gawd, what age does that show?  That was 225 yrs ago!  LOL But I am glad you like me.  Thank you. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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And I can’t wait to go back to US!! Janet UK

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LOL.  We once rented a car in Inverness (Scotland, not any of the US > versions) so we could go exploring in the northern highlands.  Pulled out > of > the car rental parking lot and Mike immediately drove up on the sidewalk! > Fortunately we were mostly driving one lane roads in very rural (and > beautiful) areas.  Even there we had some shaky moments with the > occasional > oncoming car. > Crossing the street was also an adventure – I finally learned to ALWAYS > look > both ways cause I never could figure out where cars should be coming > from. > Conversely, we didn’t even consider renting a car in Italy!  They drive > on > the same side of the road as the US, but the traffic is soooooo much > scarier! > And the best way to cross the street in Naples is to wait until all the > cars > running the red lights cause a traffic jam and then weave thru the cars. > Adventures. LOL. > Nann > A friend and I rented a car in Edinburgh and put 750 miles on that sucker. > I still can’t believe I was able to drive there, but I never hit a > thing….my problem was the roundabouts. > In London, which was our first stop, I got a such a kick out of the locals > because it was so obvious we were Americans by the way we looked left > instead of right at the crosswalks. Painted on the street were the words > "Look Right", but habits are hard to break and we would invariably look > left. Several times someone would be walking by behind us and politely say > "look right". I’m pretty sure even Hildagh reminded us a time or four! > Kelly C.-who really wants to go back to the UK.;o)

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>LOL.  We once rented a car in Inverness (Scotland,>so we could go exploring in

the northern highlands.   Bet that trip gave you a whole bunch of new gray hairs.  LOL Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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>Nah, we’ve been driving a lot longer than wot you has, so there. I believe >we tried to teach you to drive on the left side of the road,

There in lies the problem.  We have NEVER been very good about listening to instructions from across the pond.  LOL  I seem to remember something about tea and taxes.  LOL Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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You’re showing your age now, but I still like you! Janet

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Nah, we’ve been driving a lot longer than wot you has, so there. I believe >we tried to teach you to drive on the left side of the road, > There in lies the problem.  We have NEVER been very good about listening to > instructions from across the pond.  LOL  I seem to remember something about tea > and taxes.  LOL > Char > "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’. >  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> LOL.  We once rented a car in Inverness (Scotland, not any of the US > versions) so we could go exploring in the northern highlands.  Pulled out of > the car rental parking lot and Mike immediately drove up on the sidewalk! > Fortunately we were mostly driving one lane roads in very rural (and > beautiful) areas.  Even there we had some shaky moments with the occasional > oncoming car. > Crossing the street was also an adventure – I finally learned to ALWAYS look > both ways cause I never could figure out where cars should be coming from. > Conversely, we didn’t even consider renting a car in Italy!  They drive on > the same side of the road as the US, but the traffic is soooooo much scarier! > And the best way to cross the street in Naples is to wait until all the cars > running the red lights cause a traffic jam and then weave thru the cars. > Adventures. LOL. > Nann

A friend and I rented a car in Edinburgh and put 750 miles on that sucker. I still can’t believe I was able to drive there, but I never hit a thing….my problem was the roundabouts. In London, which was our first stop, I got a such a kick out of the locals because it was so obvious we were Americans by the way we looked left instead of right at the crosswalks. Painted on the street were the words "Look Right", but habits are hard to break and we would invariably look left. Several times someone would be walking by behind us and politely say "look right". I’m pretty sure even Hildagh reminded us a time or four! Kelly C.-who really wants to go back to the UK.;o)

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Hi Char Nah, we’ve been driving a lot longer than wot you has, so there. I believe we tried to teach you to drive on the left side of the road, but then, by accident, you started building all your cars with the steering wheel on the wrong side! You only have to look at the time difference to realise you will always be Janet

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->there was no way I was going to drive on the "wrong" side of the >road for love nor money! > But my dear-you DO drive on the wrong side of the road, every time you drive > your car at home.  Scares me, even to watch it in films.  lol > Char > "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’. >  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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More than a few tourists have been killed stepping in front of cars on the "wrong" side of the road.  As they say, lets be careful out there! Jo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> there was no way I was going to drive on the "wrong" side of the >> road for love nor money! > But my dear-you DO drive on the wrong side of the road, every time you drive > your car at home.  Scares me, even to watch it in films.  lol > Char > "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’. >  We’re all in this together."  Red Green > LOL.  We once rented a car in Inverness (Scotland, not any of the US > versions) so we could go exploring in the northern highlands.  Pulled out of > the car rental parking lot and Mike immediately drove up on the sidewalk! > Fortunately we were mostly driving one lane roads in very rural (and > beautiful) areas.  Even there we had some shaky moments with the occasional > oncoming car. > Crossing the street was also an adventure – I finally learned to ALWAYS look > both ways cause I never could figure out where cars should be coming from. > Conversely, we didn’t even consider renting a car in Italy!  They drive on > the same side of the road as the US, but the traffic is soooooo much scarier! > And the best way to cross the street in Naples is to wait until all the cars > running the red lights cause a traffic jam and then weave thru the cars. > Adventures. LOL. > Nann

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I agree with you 100%. Though I live much closer (I can drive to the border in a day), I still enjoy visiting the USA.  Why?  Because I have always been treated as a valued guest there, whether by other motorists, store clerks or whoever.  Even before I realized that the sign said 80 MILES per hour, not 80 KM per hour nobody cursed or yelled at me (though they probably had a good laugh). Janet – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have returned home after nearly 6 weeks in USA mostly California. We > enjoyed our stay immensely despite the sad events in New York. We visited > old friends and made some new ones.  I must comment on the behaviour of your > motorists who treated this tourist with curtesy and respect despite some of > the stupid things I did , I found the speeds and closeness on the freeways a > bit scary at times.I returned the rental without a scrape or dent which was > by good luck or the grace of God because boy we had our moments,  Also the > absence of bad language, perhaps I am getting deaf but at no time did we > hear any swearing it was quite surprising. And this body held up very well > despite being told I needed a new hip nearly 6 years ago, all the biking > since has certainly postponed that event for some time into the future. > Bill.

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>> there was no way I was going to drive on the "wrong" side of the > road for love nor money! > But my dear-you DO drive on the wrong side of the road, every time you drive > your car at home.  Scares me, even to watch it in films.  lol > Char > "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’. >  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

LOL.  We once rented a car in Inverness (Scotland, not any of the US versions) so we could go exploring in the northern highlands.  Pulled out of the car rental parking lot and Mike immediately drove up on the sidewalk!   Fortunately we were mostly driving one lane roads in very rural (and beautiful) areas.  Even there we had some shaky moments with the occasional oncoming car. Crossing the street was also an adventure – I finally learned to ALWAYS look both ways cause I never could figure out where cars should be coming from. Conversely, we didn’t even consider renting a car in Italy!  They drive on the same side of the road as the US, but the traffic is soooooo much scarier! And the best way to cross the street in Naples is to wait until all the cars running the red lights cause a traffic jam and then weave thru the cars. Adventures. LOL. Nann

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>there was no way I was going to drive on the "wrong" side of the >road for love nor money!

But my dear-you DO drive on the wrong side of the road, every time you drive your car at home.  Scares me, even to watch it in films.  lol Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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Glad you found the Americans friendly.  We have gotten much more friendly since the events of 9/11.  It has changed us in many ways, and most of them positively. Sorry you didnt get to see more of the USA.  California is unique and didnt really give you a feel for what America is really like.  But glad you had a good time. Char "Remember, I’m pulling for ya’.  We’re all in this together."  Red Green

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I have returned home after nearly 6 weeks in USA mostly California. We enjoyed our stay immensely despite the sad events in New York. We visited old friends and made some new ones.  I must comment on the behaviour of your motorists who treated this tourist with curtesy and respect despite some of the stupid things I did , I found the speeds and closeness on the freeways a bit scary at times.I returned the rental without a scrape or dent which was by good luck or the grace of God because boy we had our moments,  Also the absence of bad language, perhaps I am getting deaf but at no time did we hear any swearing it was quite surprising. And this body held up very well despite being told I needed a new hip nearly 6 years ago, all the biking since has certainly postponed that event for some time into the future. Bill.

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So glad you enjoyed your trip.  I personally think California drivers are pretty easy going most of the time.  Given the variety of skill and styles on our highways, anyone who gets too excited over stupid driver tricks probably died of a stroke a long time ago. Jo

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have returned home after nearly 6 weeks in USA mostly California. We > enjoyed our stay immensely despite the sad events in New York. We visited > old friends and made some new ones.  I must comment on the behaviour of your > motorists who treated this tourist with curtesy and respect despite some of > the stupid things I did , I found the speeds and closeness on the freeways a > bit scary at times.I returned the rental without a scrape or dent which was > by good luck or the grace of God because boy we had our moments,  Also the > absence of bad language, perhaps I am getting deaf but at no time did we > hear any swearing it was quite surprising. And this body held up very well > despite being told I needed a new hip nearly 6 years ago, all the biking > since has certainly postponed that event for some time into the future. > Bill.

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Hi Bill,   Thanks for the kind words from NZ.  You know that in this high speed world that a person can get involved in a multi-car wreck without the person breaking any kind of law.  LOLOL You probably drive on the left side of the road in NZ and the change was unnerving.  Come back again, Bill.  We need more people like you and yours and maybe our drivers will be more polite from your example. Harv – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I have returned home after nearly 6 weeks in USA mostly California. We > enjoyed our stay immensely despite the sad events in New York. We visited > old friends and made some new ones.  I must comment on the behaviour of your > motorists who treated this tourist with curtesy and respect despite some of > the stupid things I did , I found the speeds and closeness on the freeways a > bit scary at times.I returned the rental without a scrape or dent which was > by good luck or the grace of God because boy we had our moments,  Also the > absence of bad language, perhaps I am getting deaf but at no time did we > hear any swearing it was quite surprising. And this body held up very well > despite being told I needed a new hip nearly 6 years ago, all the biking > since has certainly postponed that event for some time into the future. > Bill.

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Well done Bill – you’re much braver than I was when I visited USA and Canada last year – there was no way I was going to drive on the "wrong" side of the road for love nor money! I occasionally do some driving in France but there’s something very familiar about the left hand side of the road. I’m glad you’re body held up under the strain. Must go – I feel this urge to get on my exercise bike! Janet UK

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have returned home after nearly 6 weeks in USA mostly California. We > enjoyed our stay immensely despite the sad events in New York. We visited > old friends and made some new ones.  I must comment on the behaviour of your > motorists who treated this tourist with curtesy and respect despite some of > the stupid things I did , I found the speeds and closeness on the freeways a > bit scary at times.I returned the rental without a scrape or dent which was > by good luck or the grace of God because boy we had our moments,  Also the > absence of bad language, perhaps I am getting deaf but at no time did we > hear any swearing it was quite surprising. And this body held up very well > despite being told I needed a new hip nearly 6 years ago, all the biking > since has certainly postponed that event for some time into the future. > Bill.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> I have returned home after nearly 6 weeks in USA mostly California. We > enjoyed our stay immensely despite the sad events in New York. We visited > old friends and made some new ones.  I must comment on the behaviour of your > motorists who treated this tourist with curtesy and respect despite some of > the stupid things I did , I found the speeds and closeness on the freeways a > bit scary at times.I returned the rental without a scrape or dent which was > by good luck or the grace of God because boy we had our moments,  Also the > absence of bad language, perhaps I am getting deaf but at no time did we > hear any swearing it was quite surprising. And this body held up very well > despite being told I needed a new hip nearly 6 years ago, all the biking > since has certainly postponed that event for some time into the future. > Bill.

I’m so happy you enjoyed your visit, Bill. I live in Oregon, directly north of California, but many miles (years?) away in some ways. The traffic situation in many parts of California, ie San Francisco area, is a nightmare to me. I have quite a few  relatives in the area, so get there fairly often, but I do not like driving on those busy highways. Take care, Kelly C.;o)

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> I wanted to find out if a shoe lift, arch supports, leg/ankle braces, > surgery or *anything* could be done to make my knees and ankles to get > their act together and "straighten" up.  Well, all he had to say > yesterday was sorry.  Nothing can be done, but if I were to lose weight, > it would take the strain off the muscles and joints.  Folks, we’re > talking close to 100 lbs. here. <sigh>

Hit him the hell over the head with a good sturdy metal cane!!!  It sounds like he’s using weight as an excuse for your problems!!!  I myself was told in a round about way that my arthritic symptoms were due to being out of shape, and I needed to lose weight!!!  I may not be a prefect size 6, but I am by no means grossly overweight, and that is certainy not the cause of my symptoms anyway!!!! Why is exercise used as a medical cure-all nowadays?  I guess the next time my jaws are in pain I should run a couple miles!! — "Do not be alarmed.  Sometimes our feelings conflict with our programming." –Android 16 (Dragonball Z) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Nook/9300

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Leslie,     It sounds like he was referring to the Schwinn Aerodyne. The handle bars alternate back and forth while the pedals function just like an exercise bike. I don’t know the cost but many exercise facilities have them available. cooly "He said something about an exercise machine.  I was – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> very upset with the bad news he had just given me and didn’t absorb what > he said.  I do recall he said it was made by Schwinn, it moved the legs > and worked the arms at the same time

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Leslie, Ive seen this type of exercise machine in thrift shops quite often. Im a junkyard and thrift shop hound(as they say). I dont buy much but I love to browse thru other peoples junk.>g< johnie – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Leslie, >     It sounds like he was referring to the Schwinn Aerodyne. The handle bars > alternate back and forth while the pedals function just like an exercise > bike. I don’t know the cost but many exercise facilities have them > available. > cooly > "He said something about an exercise machine.  I was > very upset with the bad news he had just given me and didn’t absorb what > he said.  I do recall he said it was made by Schwinn, it moved the legs > and worked the arms at the same time

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Leslie, I have had 2 hip replacements, and have done quite well–you will get plenty of help and advice for your rehab I’m sure – My  first replacement was 16 yrs ago–still going –you’ll be on crutches for a few wks. then a cane for a while –I loved the crutches -because I could move so Fast-ha-had to prop all sorts of things on the handles –because my husband was in hospt–& I needed to be there I was 47 at the time, also.—you’ll be fine–!! ~~~~~~~later~~" trish"~

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> Leslie, I have had 2 hip replacements, and have done quite well–you > will get plenty of help and advice for your rehab I’m sure – My  first > replacement was 16 yrs ago–still going –you’ll be on crutches for a > few wks. then a cane for a while –I loved the crutches -because I could > move so Fast-ha-had to prop all sorts of things on the handles –because > my husband was in hospt–& I needed to be there I was 47 at the time, > also.—you’ll be fine–!!

Leslie, because of my age (72) my hip replacement was cemented and I was immediately weight bearing and used a walker until I was able to use a cane. Within 3 months I was walking unaided.  However, then I dislocated the hip and had to start over.  Don’t lean over in a recliner to pick up a puppy–you will be extremely sorry! Gwen

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I saw a physiatrist (physical medicine and rehabilitation doc)  2 mo. ago about my spine, knees and ankles- all have early OA.  Due to polio, my left leg is 1.75 in. shorter.  This has caused my spine to become misshapen and I have very flat feet which is causing my ankles to "dip" with every step and my right knee is bending inwards toward the left.  I wanted to find out if a shoe lift, arch supports, leg/ankle braces, surgery or *anything* could be done to make my knees and ankles to get their act together and "straighten" up.  Well, all he had to say yesterday was sorry.  Nothing can be done, but if I were to lose weight, it would take the strain off the muscles and joints.  Folks, we’re talking close to 100 lbs. here. <sigh>   Now for the hippie question.  I have severe OA in my right hip, with cysts, and was told I need a replacement- 3 years ago.  Since I was only 47 at the time the ortho surgeons (3 of them) told me to wait as long as I could due to my age.  Well, my husband has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s, so now my time is up.  I’ll get the hip in Nov. when hubby’s son can come and stay with him while I’m in the hospital.  <Hi, Stew!  I’m *finally* gonna do it.> So, the big question.  I asked the physiatrist about exercises which I could do sitting down that will not strain the hip joint and my other sore, weak joints.  He said something about an exercise machine.  I was very upset with the bad news he had just given me and didn’t absorb what he said.  I do recall he said it was made by Schwinn, it moved the legs and worked the arms at the same time, but do not remember the mechanics of the motion that he described. Can anyone tell me what he was talking about, or tell me what you might have used in rehab, or do you have any personal recommendations?  I have a limited budget to work with.  I need to lose weight and tone up as much as possible before the surgery and beyond.   Thanks so much, Leslie Acquiring a dog may be            ,-.~~~.-, the only opportunity a                V)’   ‘(V human ever has to                     (_o_) choose a relative.            Golden Retriever   If you love animals~~~~~don’t litter!                      Spay/Neuter

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