Exercise R Us » Biking » Hopping Around, Trials Style
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> .. >1. Rip the toeclips off of your bike, you don’t need them. > I agree, it’s easier without them.
Really ?!?! I found it easiest to learn on a bmx, and then hop *strapped in* on the mountain bike. >It is very useful in trials, and not too shabby if you are at a >traffic light unfortunately I recently switched to clipless pedals, and >can’t do this quite as well, but with practoice, I guess it will come > Too bad. I think I’m about to go clipless. I didn’t realize this would > make hopping harder.
Well, it’s one of these classic "personal taste" things. I know this guy who *can’t* bunny-hop unless he’s clipped in to his Onza’s. > The only thing that I do that isn’t on this list is twist the grips > hard up & forward when I hop – as if to lift the back wheel. It > seems to help.
Also, the twist isn’t just in your wrists. It helps to push with your forearms as well. Matt
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.. >1. Rip the toeclips off of your bike, you don’t need them.
I agree, it’s easier without them. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->2. squeeze both brake levers, effectively freezing both wheels >3. lean your weight (and shift your whole body position) forward so that >yourbutt is over the nose of the saddle >4. Make sure your crank arms are >parallel to the ground. 5. Bend your knees >6. Push downwards on the handlebars and then pull upwards on them, at the > same time pulling upwards a little bit with your feet (you will have >to rotate the pedals so they are almost perpendicular to the ground and >push kind of backwards on them) >7. Upon landing, repeat step 6. You will be making lots of tiny (1" or >less hops) with your brakes freezing your wheels. >It is very useful in trials, and not too shabby if you are at a >traffic light unfortunately I recently switched to clipless pedals, and >can’t do this quite as well, but with practoice, I guess it will come
Too bad. I think I’m about to go clipless. I didn’t realize this would make hopping harder. The only thing that I do that isn’t on this list is twist the grips hard up & forward when I hop – as if to lift the back wheel. It seems to help. However I am in no danger of being able to ride over picnic tables or cars. Regards, David
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Hmmm…how to hop? Simple – you just twist the grips around the bar in the direction that would pull up the back wheel. As the bike rotates around the handlebars and you move your centre of gravity forwards…ta daa you do an endo. To hop you simply just lift the front wheel into the air before you do what I just said would create an endo situation. The bike is now rotating about the handlebars which are now a foot and a half higher than usual. Obviously the front wheel IS going down as you twist but the backwheel WILL get into the air before the front hits the dirt and there you go – a bunny hop… There are obviously alot more points to cover if you want to beat that world record of 40 and a half inches but what I just said is basically ALL there is to it! - ~o _ UEA & CU – _-> (_) - (_)/ _, - (_)’ (_) _____ - o / _ - __o – <._ / / – _ > /_ – _-> (_) / / -___(_)~ (_)_______(_)’…. . . . . . / / The skyline of Boulder | |
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> >Hi, > Does anybody have a good explanation of how to hop >without clips or cleats? The trials guys do it but I just can’t >see how. > Maybe they are squeezing the seat with their knees. > Mike
Come on, it is pretty easy. Get a small frame BMX bike and practice. Lift up and forward on the bars, and push backwards slightly with your feet, which should be equipped with the regulation Keds. — Dave Blake
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It’s all in the upper body. Say you’re hopping up onto a rock that’s 1- 1/2 ft. off the ground; first you pull up on the bar to clear your front wheel, then you push down and forward on it to clear your back wheel without casing your chainring. It is easier with toe clips or clipless, where you can pull up with your feet, but there are some sick trials, BMX, and freestyle riders who would put the average mountain biker to shame.
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>>Hi, > Does anybody have a good explanation of how to hop >without clips or cleats? The trials guys do it but I just can’t >see how. >Maybe they are squeezing the seat with their knees.
That, and trials bikes are very light. Are you attempting this with a trials bike or mountain bike? I cannot hop a mountain bike without my powergrips (or toe clips/clipless pedals) but was riding a heavy old BMX bike one day and just jumped, pulling up on the bars and rotating the grips forward to lift the rear of the bike, and the thing came right up under me, surprising the shit out of me 
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I think what the original poster was looking for was an explanation of how to bounce in one place, as trials riders often do when approaching or contemplating an obstacle. I can give an explanation of how I was taught to do it, (by a far more experienced trials rider) 1. Rip the toeclips off of your bike, you don’t need them. 2. squeeze both brake levers, effectively freezing both wheels 3. lean your weight (and shift your whole body position) forward so that yourbutt is over the nose of the saddle 4. Make sure your crank arms are parallel to the ground. 5. Bend your knees 6. Push downwards on the handlebars and then pull upwards on them, at the same time pulling upwards a little bit with your feet (you will have to rotate the pedals so they are almost perpendicular to the ground and push kind of backwards on them) 7. Upon landing, repeat step 6. You will be making lots of tiny (1" or less hops) with your brakes freezing your wheels. It is very useful in trials, and not too shabby if you are at a traffic light unfortunately I recently switched to clipless pedals, and can’t do this quite as well, but with practoice, I guess it will come Good Luck Keir — 2A CS/EEE Major http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~knspilka University of Waterloo
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: oh, lord. of course not. however, this explanation can be found in : the faq i’m sure. vincent cheng’s faq also probably has it. look it up there. : the main point is that you have to shift your weight and pull rotationally with : your wrists. peace and hugs : robert Robert, you are correct, I do have it in the FAQ, also, a very comprehensive trials manual(with lots of moves) can be also found on the net. I think you can link to it by: http://www.compusmart.ab.ca/kquigley/index.htm Anyways, here’s a description from my faq. Two ways to do this: The real way: -Level the pedals -Compress your body down and also the tires by pushing down and bending your knees and arms. -When you want to take off, pull the handlebar to your chest and move your weight back. This will give you a small wheelie. -When you are going up, push the bar up and forward, twisting the grip at the same time. While you are doing this, unweight the back end of the bike by leaning forward and really extend your arms. The saddle might hit your chest, but that’s ok. -Relax your body before hitting the ground. -Land with some weight in the back so that the back wheel hits the ground first. Make sure your front wheel is straight before you land. The SPD/toe-clip way: -Again, preload your body by coiling down and pressing real hard down. -Instead of doing all the weight shifting, just jump and yank up real hard. -Landing is the same. — Vince — — Vincent Cheng University Of Alberta 1st year Engineering Maintainer for Mountain Biking FAQ*http://www.ualberta.ca/~vccheng/faq.html Edmonton Bicycle Commuters Society*http://www.ualberta.ca/~vccheng/ebc.html Columnist for Gearhead MTB e-zine*http://www.gearhead.com/
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>>Hi, > Does anybody have a good explanation of how to hop >without clips or cleats? The trials guys do it but I just can’t >see how. > Maybe they are squeezing the seat with their knees. > Mike
oh, lord. of course not. however, this explanation can be found in the faq i’m sure. vincent cheng’s faq also probably has it. look it up there. the main point is that you have to shift your weight and pull rotationally with your wrists. peace and hugs robert "it is one thing to show a man that he is in an error, and another to put him in possession of truth."–john locke
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>>Hi, > Does anybody have a good explanation of how to hop >without clips or cleats? The trials guys do it but I just can’t >see how. >Maybe they are squeezing the seat with their knees. >Mike
Although we may be using the inside of our legs to keep the bike under better conping around is one of those things that is really hard to explain. You don’t use any part of the bike for "spring" (it’s not a suspension thing), you don’t "lift" the bike up, you just jump up with your body, and then sort of bring the bike with you as an after thought. It’s more in the hands then in the feet I guess. But your hands are just guiding the bike, not truely lifting it. You don’t pull the bike up by the toe-clips either. You can sort of do that, but you will never get good at it with that style. I’ve tried to teach friends how to do big hops, and all I can say is it takes alot of time and practice, no one just goes out and the first day (or year) of learning starts bouncing back and forth a foot off the ground. Learn how to hop an inch off the ground, then do that alot. When you feel real comfortable with that, try 3 inches, then 5, 7, ect.. then start manipulating it by changing your weight side to side and front to back before you spring up and twist you body while in the air to make your hops move around like trials riders do it. It’s something you have to learn to feel for yourself, it’s hard to describe.
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>Hi, > Does anybody have a good explanation of how to hop >without clips or cleats? The trials guys do it but I just can’t >see how.
Maybe they are squeezing the seat with their knees. Mike
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Hi, Does anybody have a good explanation of how to hop without clips or cleats? The trials guys do it but I just can’t see how. Thanks Pete Gennaro
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